New Epson ITS (Ink Tanks System, aka CISS) Product Line

[3dogs]

All of this talk on ink longevity is totally wasted because of the way that manufactures produce paper nowadays, leaves a lot to be desired.

What the point in boosting that your ink will last 200 years when the paper won’t last 25 or less years in a lot of cases, Paper made from wood pulp is a very poor substitute..

Not many " Archival " photo papers are pure wood pulp based, and IMHO the elephant in the room is more likely to be the air and the light around us that has MOST effect, there are profound changes to both afoot. as we speak.
Canson have been making "paper" for 500 years, there are books written in ink on cotton paper in Archives dating back 2014 PLUS ( not made by Canson).....
There is evidence aplenty of Dyes reaching similar ages on textiles adding to my assertion that it is not so much what, but HOW you choose to store your work.
True we have become somewhat lax and consumeristic (read planned obsolescence, oriented) but I have faith, no matter how slim that some of my prints will haunt and bring vengeance on OEM's way off in the future, when some as yet unseen youth is standing in the midst of Apple Park, scratching his head and wondering who the bronze is supposed to have been

 

[martin0reg]

@costadinos
Do you have anymore information or links regarding drylab ink (dye) in epson home printers?
Have anyone ever tried this?

 

[costadinos]

@costadinos
Do you have anymore information or links regarding drylab ink (dye) in epson home printers?
Have anyone ever tried this?

I haven't tried installing them in a CISS myself, but I've seen prints made from drylabs and they were very good.
Those are all $20000+ machines, so I'd guess they haven't compromised on ink quality. It should at least perform as well as Claria does. They do claim similar fade resistance figures as their Claria printers. Fuji even goes as far to say it matches their crystal archive paper in stability.
Price is still very high compared to 3rd party inks, even pigments, but quality should be excellent.

 

[martin0reg]

BTW there is a claria compatible ink from cone:
http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.362672/sc.29/category.-129/it.C/.f

 

[costadinos]

BTW there is a claria compatible ink from cone:
http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.362672/sc.29/category.-129/it.C/.f

I doubt it's anywhere near Claria regarding longevity.
It even suggests using pigments instead of this in the description...

 

[martin0reg]

There is Inkthrift PRO, CL and DB... take a look at CL:
http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.362672/sc.29/category.87729/.f
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3523166
http://www.inkjetmall.com/wordpress/opinion/dye-inks-and-safe-display-conditions/
and more critically:
http://homershannon.zenfolio.com/blog/2014/6/epson-1400-ink-alternatives

 

[martin0reg]

Here is a test of the L355 which reflects my own experience with the flimsy but reliable L300:
http://www.htxt.co.za/2013/06/26/epson-l355-review/
..printing text shows no more than average quality - but printing photos is better than expected..

 

[Borut]

hm..epson forget to add one more cartdrige for black pigment ink and all shoud be ok...
Or you can put in all 4 pigment inks and all ok...??
But photo printing goodbye...??

But my L800 is great...also photo fade test for dark storage in albums is on test..On the wall they say
17 years...?Perhaps more years whit other paper or less? Who knows...
....Coralgraps dyes are more fade resistant and i think to buy
them for next setup new inks.But image index is a question and skin color tones..
Last experience whas bad,,,,to pinky skin tones...Calabration of the printer driver did not help me.

 

[Borut]

BTW there is a claria compatible ink from cone:
http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.362672/sc.29/category.-129/it.C/.f

hm ....price is also high mybe is realy fade resistant but for haw long..

 

[The Hat]

Pigment inks won’t work in the L800 Epson CISS printer..