Media Black Points and Fading Test 106 114 T54C GI-53

[The Hat]

Canon Photo Paper Pro has a particular smell,

So Canon paper has a fine nose..

 

[Ink stained Fingers]

I have noticed that for example Canon Photo Paper Pro has a particular smell,

that could be an idea to promote a particular paper - Canon adds a nice smell to one of their papers - I would prefer most the smell 'Ocean Breeze' over 'Spring Flowers'. The consumer goods industry is already perfuming lots of their products today

 

[Ink stained Fingers]

I kept this fading test running for another 2 weeks - now a total of 4 weeks of outside exposure, the test is just confirming previous statements that OEM inks perform best on OEM papers. This test does not include 3rd party dye inks like InkTec nor any pigment inks - no OEM pigment inks nor 3rd party inks. I'm closing this test now.

 

[Lothman]

I kept this fading test running for another 2 weeks - now a total of 4 weeks of outside exposure, the test is just confirming previous statements that OEM inks perform best on OEM papers....

I see excellent results and report of the Epson 114 inkset from the 8550 printer over lots of sources.

In which (cheaper) printer I could use the 5x inkset (CMYK+grey) when profiled and benefit from this good longevity and nice results on glossy paper for my academic (notorious poor) photoclub . A3 would be nice but also an A4 model would help, both only dedicated to photo-printing.

 

[Ink stained Fingers]

You effectively could use the 114 inks in any Epson 4 color printer - with refill cartridges or reloaded bottles for Ecotank printers. You may look as well to other older 6 color printers. But you cannot run Epson inks on Canon printers, the Canon GI-53 inks are the best bottled Chromalife 100 inks you can use as well in other models. The Chromalife 100 inks are slightly inferior to the Chromalife 100+ inks, but these are not available in bottles .

 

[Alexey]

I kept this fading test running for another 2 weeks - now a total of 4 weeks of outside exposure, the test is just confirming previous statements that OEM inks perform best on OEM papers. This test does not include 3rd party dye inks like InkTec nor any pigment inks - no OEM pigment inks nor 3rd party inks. I'm closing this test now.

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Delta E on GI-53 Black apears pretty low on your tests. Does this indicate that black ink is pretty resistant to fading? Aarenburg Project was reporting that the biggest difference between original Chromalife 100 and Chromalife 100+ was more fade-resistant black. Based on your test, is it reasonable to guess that GI-53 is likely using the newer Chromalife 100+ black ink? If so, would it be reasonable to expect fade resistance more similar to chromalife 100+ than chromalife 100?

 

[Alexey]

I kept this fading test running for another 2 weeks - now a total of 4 weeks of outside exposure, the test is just confirming previous statements that OEM inks perform best on OEM papers. This test does not include 3rd party dye inks like InkTec nor any pigment inks - no OEM pigment inks nor 3rd party inks. I'm closing this test now.

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Being a non-professional in this field, I am having a bit of hard time interpreting this data in evaluating whether GI-53 is a good enough ink to be comparable to Pro-100 dye inks? Is there any way to even roughly estimate Aarenburg-style megalux-hours for GI-53 from this data (assuming continued linear fading)?

 

[Ink stained Fingers]

Is there any way to even roughly estimate Aarenburg-style megalux-hours for GI-53 from this data (assuming continued linear fading)?

I'm placing the test targets into the outside environment with a varying amount of sun, humidity, temperature and UV radiation which all I don't measure so I can't even come close to Aardenburg numbers, not to talk even about issues with the reciprocity approach Aardenburg and Wilhelm Research take. I just run the test to compare a known ink - in most cases the Epson 106 ink - with other inks under test - and this on a few papers which are easily available as OEM papers by Epson, Canon or HP. And even this small number of papers in the test show that just one number as an performance indicator for an ink does not cover the complexity of such tests.

Canon is not very clear about actual differences of their Chromalife 100 and 100+ inks, you may study the Canon links in this posting

https://www.printerknowledge.com/threads/fading-of-patch-sheets-in-the-dark.16099/post-139985

And it's up to the user to decide for himself to decide which ink he is better off with - taking all that and the pricing into account - or going for 3rd party inks alltogether. But even less information is available about such 3rd party inks.

 

[Ink stained Fingers]

You may a look as well to the extensive testing by maximilian59 which includes Chromalife inks.

https://www.printerknowledge.com/th...ng-test-update-18-june-2021.14742/post-128730

 

[Alexey]

You may a look as well to the extensive testing by maximilian59 which includes Chromalife inks.

https://www.printerknowledge.com/th...ng-test-update-18-june-2021.14742/post-128730

Thank you so much for your responsiveness, help and truly informative links.

It would be fascinating to see the comparison of GI-53, GI-X3 inks with the original Chromalife 100 inks. At least the black ink. Just to see if it is indeed the same ancient ink chemistry or just a recycled name.