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I'd planned on posting this on the original thread you were discussing here.
... but that topic has gone off on a tangent while this has stayed truer to the topic of cost/development/etc... so I'll cross post to keep on topic (weird of what?!)
The problem is really quite simple. Not only are new printers coming out with new tech "protecting" the consumables, but they are being purchased in much reduced volumes. When you do the maths, if the market is smaller, people are being a lot tighter with their cash, don't want to risk what is now an expensive investment with non-OEM, etc... All of a sudden the market for things like resetters is even smaller still. So, when you toss in the investment in research, development and new components there is no reason to expect third party manufacturers to go after newer printers in the same way that was evident in the past.
In truth the PGI-9 was a real curve ball but when you have sellers happy to recommend the ARC's over the resetter it's no real surprise there's a reluctance to push development on a new resetter if the sellers are saying "It's too expensive! People won't buy". For myself, I disagree... Eventually refillers get frustrated with a power blip resetting their chip without them realising. When the cart drains without them realising (which on a PGI-9 offers a very real "squeakybum" factor as there's no backup sensor!) the cost of the resetter vs' the cost of a potential fried printhead/printer becomes a whole lot clearer. Others simply realise they prefer the convenience of all cartridges the same instead of a CLI-8 resetter (that needs finessing to reset) and two ARCs...
It's not just the resetter folk either. Ink manufacturers aren't developing inks for newer models either, with very few exceptions.
Now, all of the above would naturally lead you to assume that it's game over for the Pro-100/CLI-42 chipset but it's not. Subject to further testing, manufacture and the all important cost, one is looking likely to be released in the next few months. When it does, I'll be sure to let you all know...
However, if you're talking about the Pro-10's I'd seriously have to question whether it would be worth it... and as for the Pro-1, I think you can safely forget that too. There's simply nobody bothering to even talk about refilling those cartridges/printers (well, except for a lone loon of an Irishman!
) so it's not exactly a hot market opportunity now is it.
So, not all bad news but it will be interesting to see, in 5-10 years, if all we've been doing is re-arranging the deck chairs on the titanic of home printing... Time will tell.
... but that topic has gone off on a tangent while this has stayed truer to the topic of cost/development/etc... so I'll cross post to keep on topic (weird of what?!)
If I were to guess, the PGI-9 resetter has probably not netted a substantial profit (if any) so if that's true, would that indicate just how wary any of the ARC chip or resetter manufacturers are when it comes to the newest models?jtoolman said:
The problem is really quite simple. Not only are new printers coming out with new tech "protecting" the consumables, but they are being purchased in much reduced volumes. When you do the maths, if the market is smaller, people are being a lot tighter with their cash, don't want to risk what is now an expensive investment with non-OEM, etc... All of a sudden the market for things like resetters is even smaller still. So, when you toss in the investment in research, development and new components there is no reason to expect third party manufacturers to go after newer printers in the same way that was evident in the past.
In truth the PGI-9 was a real curve ball but when you have sellers happy to recommend the ARC's over the resetter it's no real surprise there's a reluctance to push development on a new resetter if the sellers are saying "It's too expensive! People won't buy". For myself, I disagree... Eventually refillers get frustrated with a power blip resetting their chip without them realising. When the cart drains without them realising (which on a PGI-9 offers a very real "squeakybum" factor as there's no backup sensor!) the cost of the resetter vs' the cost of a potential fried printhead/printer becomes a whole lot clearer. Others simply realise they prefer the convenience of all cartridges the same instead of a CLI-8 resetter (that needs finessing to reset) and two ARCs...
It's not just the resetter folk either. Ink manufacturers aren't developing inks for newer models either, with very few exceptions.
Now, all of the above would naturally lead you to assume that it's game over for the Pro-100/CLI-42 chipset but it's not. Subject to further testing, manufacture and the all important cost, one is looking likely to be released in the next few months. When it does, I'll be sure to let you all know...
However, if you're talking about the Pro-10's I'd seriously have to question whether it would be worth it... and as for the Pro-1, I think you can safely forget that too. There's simply nobody bothering to even talk about refilling those cartridges/printers (well, except for a lone loon of an Irishman!
) so it's not exactly a hot market opportunity now is it.So, not all bad news but it will be interesting to see, in 5-10 years, if all we've been doing is re-arranging the deck chairs on the titanic of home printing... Time will tell.
