Epson WorkForce WF-7620 reset XL ink for longer printing?

[furziger]

He gus,
me again. I use non-original inks (seller wrote "XL" as capacity) for my WF-7620 and every time, the printer tells me the cartridge is empty, I hear it clearly, there's still ink in the color cartridges and in the double or trible size black there must be a huge amount of ink. I have no resetting tool at the moment, but the guy who sells these chip resetters wrote that there must always a little amount of ink in the cartridges and if not, the printer recognizes it and disables this chip.

I don't want to refill the cartridges so could I buy a chip resetter, restet the chip after he says it's empty and let the printer print until the disables the chip completely? Or get my printer a problem then (print-head filled with air?)

 

[Ink stained Fingers]

Are you using XL or XXL black ink cartridges ? It could very well be that the cartridge contains more ink than the volume programmed into the chip and lets you use. If a chip resetter would work at all - I don't know - how much longer would you print ? - until the cartridge runs empty and you get banding in the printout ? You would have to start some more cleaning cycles with the next cartridge you install to get the ink channel filled with ink again, you create more waste ink, you need to interrupt a running print job for that, it takes time , you have to reprint some pages so where is the gain ?

 

[furziger]

Hmmm... yes, I thought of these problems, too. But the big black (marked as XL from the refiller) and 35 ml seems really worth it. These cartridges have a transparent area on the downside, I guess the printer itself can control it optically if the ink is completely gone or not. Nice, all the older printers I got from EPSON only pay attention to their chip and nothing else. But at the end it's really a big critical, because you really have to control this before the cartridge runs out of ink, not easy (you have to watch and shake the cartridge manually). Bad, most of my old EPSON printers print the cartridges very empty.

Update: I mean 35 ml is the complete capacity of the cartridge, not the rest-amount!

 

[Ink stained Fingers]

I do refill and don't use resetters since a long time, I guess you would need to look for a supplier which ships the big black cartridge full and with a chip matching the XXL volume.

 

[apetitphoto]

1) If you're refilling why not refill all the carts when one is declared empty? That way you'll most likely never run out of ink.
2) I'm pretty sure the workforce printers don't know how much ink is in a cartridge; the printer "knows" how much it is using and bases the remaining volume on that. I've noticed that if I refill a cart that the printer thinks isn't empty it does not see It as refilled. But if I replace a cart that it thinks is empty it sees it as full no matter how much ink is in it. I'm using auto reset carts so that may have something to do with my experience.

 

[furziger]

You have so called auto-reset refillable cartridges, I think they reset themself after you get them off the printer and if you place them again in the printer, they are reset now and the printer see's this as a "new" cartridge.

 

[mikling]

Some of the newer Epsons actually have an ink out optical sensor but it is best not to trip that sensor. On early ARCs of those models, the tripped sensor will write back to the ARC and in some circumstances destroy it. The sensor is good with the respect that it will stop printing if you are physically out of ink. However, like Canons, the sensor is activated with some level of logic that will only work in normal situations. If you are refilling it is best to never let the sensor trip. The risk of a blown ARC is not worth the trouble. You can prevent tripping by placing a black opaque tape in front of the ink window on the bottom of the cart.

You should also be aware that cartridge physical internal volumes are typically always, significantly larger than what the chip expects. So it is perfectly normal to have a chip signal empty and the cartridge holding quite some volume. On the skinny carts, there are three chip volumes that can be attached to the same physical cartridge body. Normally, you'd not have to pay attention. However, since those non prime carts are smaller than the prime required ones, one needs to pay attention to what chips is placed on the body. You can end up with situations where the chip used requires the largest volume and it is placed on a non prime cart which has a volume lower than the chip or just exact and you run the potential of running out of ink.

Confused yet? Don't worry. You're in the company of most people AND sellers. You're NORMAL.

 

[apetitphoto]

You have so called auto-reset refillable cartridges, I think they reset themself after you get them off the printer and if you place them again in the printer, they are reset now and the printer see's this as a "new" cartridge.

That is what mine claim to do, but the printer only recognizes them as full after it thinks they're empty. I've not found a way to force them to full otherwise, but it's OK as I tend to refill them before they are "empty."

 

[mikling]

OK folks, let's stop and think for a while. When ARCS first came out > 10 years ago they reset whenever the printer was powered off and then back on. GREAT. That way I could control when they reset.
But is that REALLY what you want?
What if you wanted to check the ink level and then it reset. Uh Oh,
What if you turned the printer off. Uh Oh.
What if you moved the printer? Uh Oh.
What if you had a power outage during a storm? Uh Oh.

Now please just live with the ARC that resets when it is empty and resets only AFTER that point. It mimics an OEM one and is easier for the rest of the world. If there was a resetter yeah that would be nice but resetter days will be quickly coming to an end soon.

There were ARCS for a couple years that could be manually reset on board. The world kicked them out because users did not understand and they caused a whole lot of confusion and problems when users did not see the need for little watch batteries on chips and always claimed their chips went bad when the battery went low.
Vendors complained to the chip guys and NOBODY wants those anymore...only a select few that understood why.....democracy in action.

 

[techsavvy]

I heard that in 2007, Epson started making their chips nearly impossible to reset. The old resetters don't work with these chips and most of the newer resetters sold on ebay, etc don't work at all. In any case, it is dangerous to reset because if the printer thinks the cartridge has ink and it really doesn't, it could destroy the print head. See http://.

Epson cartridges count pages printed, not actual ink use. They count blank pages and partial pages equal to full ones. Epson claims this is a safety feature (and to some extent they are right for the reason I already gave) but they are far too conservative in their estimate which is why so much ink is wasted. See https://

I use refillable cartridges from.... in my 7610. The cartridges are transparent and I make sure to keep them from getting empty so no wasted ink and very low print costs.

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