Epson Stylus Pro 3880 or SC-P800 length limit for Multi-sheet feeder?

Smile

Printer Master
Joined
Aug 23, 2006
Messages
1,914
Reaction score
418
Points
253
Location
Europe EU
Printer Model
Canon, Brother, HP, Ricoh etc.
If you get the T120 get the CISS for it do not use refillable carts they leak. Food wider should not stop you from good buy, as 4 inks vs. 9inks means way more money on inks ! Even if use only black the cleaning cycles will use all carts anyway. I can only suggest if you will go the EPSON way then use
Quadtone RIP and fill all carts with black ink I think it should use less ink this way.
 

Trevorm7

Printing Apprentice
Joined
Oct 26, 2015
Messages
12
Reaction score
1
Points
11
Printer Model
None
If it uses all the inks during cleaning, how will it use less if they're all black?

Also how often does it clean? Also does it stop you from printing at all if the other inks are empty? If it were possible to trick it into thinking the other inks are full when empty, would that harm the printers ability to print black?
 

Smile

Printer Master
Joined
Aug 23, 2006
Messages
1,914
Reaction score
418
Points
253
Location
Europe EU
Printer Model
Canon, Brother, HP, Ricoh etc.
QTR is used to print BW images and also for screen printing.

Also how often does it clean?
You mean EPSON, way more than thermal inkjet printer.

Also does it stop you from printing at all if the other inks are empty?
If it were possible to trick it into thinking the other inks are full when empty, would that harm the printers ability to print black?
Yes. The Themal print head burns if it is not cooled by ink. Same with Piezo head if you run it EMPTY.
The vibrations in piezo elements in the print head still produce heat - no ink means damaged head.

You need 4 channel printer if plan to have any return on investment IMHO.
You do not want to mess with RIP software for printing TEXT IMHO.
Get the HP T120 or older model that allows single print heads replaced separately. The T120 is really small for 24in model.
 

Trevorm7

Printing Apprentice
Joined
Oct 26, 2015
Messages
12
Reaction score
1
Points
11
Printer Model
None
So for the Epson, if I were to let all the other colors run empty except black, would this stop me from printing black? If not, then I think getting a used or already damaged 3800/3880 would be cheaper than the T120.

Also no I wouldn't want to mess with RIP software. Any reason I would have to use that for this?
 

Ink stained Fingers

Printer VIP
Platinum Printer Member
Joined
Dec 27, 2014
Messages
6,062
Reaction score
7,234
Points
363
Location
Germany
Printer Model
L805, WF2010, ET8550
when the chips on the cartridges report empty the printer will ask for replacement and stop further printing. You may cheat the printer and just reset empty cartridges and leave them empty with possible consequences that you might not print other colors anymore. I think you need to reset these cartridges before they actually report empty. Or - if you want to protect youre printhead for later use - you may refill with cheap dye inks.
 

Trevorm7

Printing Apprentice
Joined
Oct 26, 2015
Messages
12
Reaction score
1
Points
11
Printer Model
None
OK thanks.

Also if I let the others run empty, would those heads still burn out even if I set it to print black only in the driver? Seems like it shouldn't since they won't be being used.
 

Ink stained Fingers

Printer VIP
Platinum Printer Member
Joined
Dec 27, 2014
Messages
6,062
Reaction score
7,234
Points
363
Location
Germany
Printer Model
L805, WF2010, ET8550
the Grayscale printing options are implemented diferently on different printers, but I would assume for the 3800/3880 that they only use the black and gray inks, and no other inks, but as soon there is some kind of advanced B/W option offering you to tone your B/W print from sepia to neutral and other tones then colored inks are involved as well to do that toning, but as mentioned I'm not familiar with these Epson drivers and settings.
 

RogerB

Print Addict
Joined
Sep 27, 2010
Messages
293
Reaction score
316
Points
183
Location
S.E. England
Printer Model
Epson Pro3880
the Grayscale printing options are implemented diferently on different printers, but I would assume for the 3800/3880 that they only use the black and gray inks, and no other inks, but as soon there is some kind of advanced B/W option offering you to tone your B/W print from sepia to neutral and other tones then colored inks are involved as well to do that toning, but as mentioned I'm not familiar with these Epson drivers and settings.
The Epson diver always uses some colours when printing B&W. The Epson black/grey inks are not neutral and need to be "adjusted" using some colour. Like most (all?) pinters, the Epsons will not print if one cartridge is empty.
 

Ink stained Fingers

Printer VIP
Platinum Printer Member
Joined
Dec 27, 2014
Messages
6,062
Reaction score
7,234
Points
363
Location
Germany
Printer Model
L805, WF2010, ET8550
that's what I expected. There are some office printers which offer you to continue to print when the black cartridge runs empty , and then mixing the colors for black, but this wouldn't apply to the 3880
 

Trevorm7

Printing Apprentice
Joined
Oct 26, 2015
Messages
12
Reaction score
1
Points
11
Printer Model
None
Alright so from what I gather, If I let the other colors go empty and trick it into thinking they're full, and only print black, it will not be perfectly black (doesn't matter to me) and it will potentially damage the other heads.
 
Top