Downsample to Twice the PPI of the Detail You Want to Preserve

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My goal is to establish for me my go-to PPI in Photoshop. So, the experiments were for me, yet I am sharing my results as there may be some interest. As always, I am open to feedback, constructive comments, and corrections to what I have shared below.

While building a set of test images to evaluate the Epson P900, I observed a subtle but significant issue in the downsampling process that isn’t often discussed: detail loss when downsampling from high-resolution sources.

As a typical example, if you're working with a very high-resolution image and intend to preserve detail at the 300 or 360 PPI level, you might naturally downsample directly to that target resolution. However, this approach may discard important details based on the Nyquist criterion.

The Nyquist theorem states that the sampling rate must be at least twice the maximum frequency of the signal to preserve signal integrity in any sampled system. For instance, CDs are sampled at 44,100 Hz in digital audio to capture audio up to approximately 20,000 Hz.

The same principle applies to images. High-frequency detail in photographs—fine texture, tight patterns, etc.—requires equivalent sampling logic. To preserve image detail corresponding to 300 or 360 PPI, you should downsample to 600 or 720 PPI, respectively.


Visual Demonstration: Checkerboard Pattern Downsampling

To illustrate this, I created synthetic checkerboard patterns simulating high-frequency detail, ranging from 2880 PPI down to 90 PPI in even steps. Checkerboard patterns are incomplete for resolution testing yet are very good for specific tests:

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Next, I resampled the image to three target resolutions—1440, 720, and 360 PPI—to examine how different frequencies reproduce. Each test box includes a zoomed inset for easier viewing, with the magnification labeled for reference.

1440 PPI Downsample

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At 1440 PPI, early signs of the checkerboard pattern emerge, albeit with low contrast and clarity. At 960 PPI, checkerboards reappear but are distorted—different from the original pattern. At 720 PPI and below, detail reproduction improves significantly, with 720 PPI offering an accurate representation of the original checkerboard—consistent with Nyquist's rule (1/2 of 1440 PPI).

I've marked the results accordingly:

  • Black box: Unusable/distorted
  • Orange box: Some recognizable detail, but degraded
  • Yellow box: Caution—partial recovery, still distorted
  • No box: Good reproduction
Real-World Implications

While checkerboards exaggerate the effect, photographic images may mask this degradation with more random pixel structures. That said, if you’ve invested in high-resolution cameras, lenses, or scanners to capture fine detail, it’s worth ensuring your downsampling method preserves that fidelity.

This pattern holds in further tests: 720 and 360 PPI resamples only reproduce details reliably when targeting half the PPI value of the original content.

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Below is a zoomed view of the 360 PPI downsample at the 360 PPI checkerboard frequency. Despite being numerically matched, the pattern is neither clean nor well-resolved over a larger area—supporting the need to downsample at twice the detail frequency you wish to preserve. The magnified inset just happened to miss some of the other anomalies.

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Takeaway

Whether this level of detail loss matters depends on your needs and standards. However, many users may inadvertently discard quality due to insufficient downsampling resolution. This test shows subtle detail loss can occur before the image reaches the printer.

In a future post, I’ll take these digital samples to print and compare the differences in real-world output.

The key takeaway for me is that my go-to Photoshop PPI for the Epson p900 is leaning to be 720 PPI as I want to preserve the detail I can at 360 PPI, which is about the resolution of the human eye.

Always open for feedback.

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That's a great posting explaining the details and effects of up/downsampling; the issue of upsampling to twice the printing resolution is lurking in the background since quite a while like here in Qimage with the 'Overdrive' option.

https://www.ddisoftware.com/qimage-u/tech-prt.htm

https://ddisoftware.com/tech/articles/july-2011-restless-natives/

And there are more programs and plug-ins doing even more with AI to invent new image details.

Could you plese post the test scheet as a .png file - thanks
 

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Apologies to those that may se me as "Trying to teach Granny to suck eggs etc"

The first works about image resolution for printing I came across were from the late Bruce Fraser, friend and mentor of Jeff Schewe, Andrew Rodney, Martin Evening (The Pixel Mafia). Later written about in more detail by Schewe.

My understanding confirmed by my own testing is:

1. Printers have a native resolution up until fairly recently fixed depending on manufacturer Canon 300/600 Epson 360/720 (some Epson printers use 300/600 PPI now I believe) this could be said as a generalisation:
Canon printers have two native resolutions declared to the OS as 300/600 PPI, while Epson native resolution is 360/720 PPI. There is a potential higher resolution of 1200 PPI or 1440 PPI Canon Epson respectively – which may benefit.

2. The human eye is capable of resolving much greater detail (20/20 vision or better) than can be displayed in the oft quoted 300 PPI maximum. 300 PPI is perceived as a contone image by most and has been assumed therefore that this is the maximum resolving power of the eye. 300 PPI may well be the point where most of us see a continuous tone however that is because we do not notice the spaces in-between. Depending on which explanation you look at the resolving potential of even 20/20 vision exceeds 1000 PPI by some margin.

3. As far as printing goes if your image data should ideally meet or exceed your printers declared resolution at your desired print size. The following makes no assumptions or allowance for viewing distance for print size other than the viewer being a photographer will want to see the image close up and personal – nose length :he

a. If your print size is say 10x8 and you are printing with Epson then your target image should be 360 PPI. If it is lower than that use your application to upsample to 360 PPI
If you do not use the application to resample the printer will do it for you when it builds its proprietary bitmap. In doing so it is likely to use Nearest Neighbour algorithm which is probably less than optimal for many photo images, whereas most editing applications use more sophisticated algorithms

b. If your desired print size contains more than the basic 360 PPI then ideally you should resample again via your application to 720 PPI otherwise you are throwing data away with no control on what gets discarded, which may be otherwise useful data. More than 720 PPI pixel data then it may be worthwhile going to 1440. Mike Chaney Qimage did a lot of work on this and it may be useful for some images with lots of fine detail

c. Generally there is nothing to be gained by trying to upsample a 360 PPI maximum image data file to 720 PPI as there is no hidden detail to be gained just computer interpolation of data. The exception of course being those AI enlargement programs offering miracle interpretation of data such as Gigapixel A!

It could be argued that in real photographic images rather than test images many of us would struggle to see the difference between 360 PPI and 720 PPI especially when taking into account "normal viewing distances" i.e. based on 1.5-2x diagonal print size.

One advantage is that 720 PPI allows to do print sharpening at that resolution and can increase edge acutance over 360 PPI.

How much it matters must be subject dependent and how much real data is there from the start

accepting YMMV :D
 
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Yes, newer Epson printers - Workforce - Ecotank and large format printers come with 600 dpi printheads - same as Canon's printheads, but the number of nozzle rows on Canon printheads is much higher than on Epson printheads. Canon printheads need a separate row of nozzles for every droplet size, typically 2 per color, Epson can operate with different droplet sizes with the same nozzle row(s) which drops the nozzle rows to half of Canon printheads. This has a direct impact onto the ink amount of printhead cleaning actions which try to suck ink through every nozzle, higher nozzle counts improve printing speed - with this disadvantage of more waste ink consumption.

it would help to have a look to the angular resolution as well which is a fixed property of the eye, and calculating the resp. dpi for that viewing distance is a separate calculation, there are plenty of internet postings about this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angular_resolution

https://www.wikilectures.eu/w/Resolution_of_human_eye

https://clarkvision.com/imagedetail/eye-resolution.html

and more here - beyond my actual interest

https://9meters.com/technology/highest-resolution-the-eye-can-see

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-02653-w
 
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I did wonder why Epson had made the move to 300/600 ppi rather than their usual 360/720. I had assumed, probably incorrectly, that there would be savings in the manufacturing process?

I remember Jeff Schewe writing about the difference in Canon 300/600 ppi vs Epson 360/720 ppi and if memory serves he was surprised that there was no measurable difference observed when he had half expected the Epson to show a little improvement.

Yes the clarkvision.com is one of the earliest ones I looked at relating to resolving power camera/prints/eye. Like you I think, I found some articles way outside of my photographic interest
 

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That's a great posting explaining the details and effects of up/downsampling; the issue of upsampling to twice the printing resolution is lurking in the background since quite a while like here in Qimage with the 'Overdrive' option.

https://www.ddisoftware.com/qimage-u/tech-prt.htm

https://ddisoftware.com/tech/articles/july-2011-restless-natives/

And there are more programs and plug-ins doing even more with AI to invent new image details.

Could you plese post the test scheet as a .png file - thanks
Thank you for your response @Ink stained Fingers

To be clear, my post was only about the data loss in downsampling, and nothing that I did in the experiments involved upsampling.

So, to preserve the data at 360 ppi, one would only downsample to 720 ppi—no upsampling involved.

I am more than happy to provide the test sheet. A couple of notes/cautions first

I designed this test to show the effects of downsampling. I fully expect and believe this is not the best test image for determining all answers when printing—the reason for that we have discussed already offline. When you have image data that involves black and white pixels next to each other, they will get lost due to the ink bleed on the paper. I fully expect pixel-size checkerboards to print with no detail and only show up finally at much lower resolutions. Printing the checkerboard pattern would underrate the actual resolution of a printer.

The base test pattern is built as 4.5 ix 11 inches at 2880 ppi, so the RGB size is 1 GB. It compresses nicely as a PNG to just a few MB. I removed the magnified insets as those were produced after downsampling with a semi-automated process magnifying pieces of each checkerboard, so they are not part of the base image.

Keep in mind that the image will look odd at lower magnifications than 100% on your screen, including some of the test bars that look like they are missing (yet they are there).

Given the pixel dimensions of the image, it will not upload to the forum yet here is a Dropbox link to that flattened PNG file: Flattened Checkerboard Test Sheet

Thanks again for your response.
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Apologies to those that may se me as "Trying to teach Granny to suck eggs etc"

The first works about image resolution for printing I came across were from the late Bruce Fraser, friend and mentor of Jeff Schewe, Andrew Rodney, Martin Evening (The Pixel Mafia). Later written about in more detail by Schewe.

My understanding confirmed by my own testing is:

1. Printers have a native resolution up until fairly recently fixed depending on manufacturer Canon 300/600 Epson 360/720 (some Epson printers use 300/600 PPI now I believe) this could be said as a generalisation:
Canon printers have two native resolutions declared to the OS as 300/600 PPI, while Epson native resolution is 360/720 PPI. There is a potential higher resolution of 1200 PPI or 1440 PPI Canon Epson respectively – which may benefit.

2. The human eye is capable of resolving much greater detail (20/20 vision or better) than can be displayed in the oft quoted 300 PPI maximum. 300 PPI is perceived as a contone image by most and has been assumed therefore that this is the maximum resolving power of the eye. 300 PPI may well be the point where most of us see a continuous tone however that is because we do not notice the spaces in-between. Depending on which explanation you look at the resolving potential of even 20/20 vision exceeds 1000 PPI by some margin.

3. As far as printing goes if your image data should ideally meet or exceed your printers declared resolution at your desired print size. The following makes no assumptions or allowance for viewing distance for print size other than the viewer being a photographer will want to see the image close up and personal – nose length :he

a. If your print size is say 10x8 and you are printing with Epson then your target image should be 360 PPI. If it is lower than that use your application to upsample to 360 PPI
If you do not use the application to resample the printer will do it for you when it builds its proprietary bitmap. In doing so it is likely to use Nearest Neighbour algorithm which is probably less than optimal for many photo images, whereas most editing applications use more sophisticated algorithms

b. If your desired print size contains more than the basic 360 PPI then ideally you should resample again via your application to 720 PPI otherwise you are throwing data away with no control on what gets discarded, which may be otherwise useful data. More than 720 PPI pixel data then it may be worthwhile going to 1440. Mike Chaney Qimage did a lot of work on this and it may be useful for some images with lots of fine detail

c. Generally there is nothing to be gained by trying to upsample a 360 PPI maximum image data file to 720 PPI as there is no hidden detail to be gained just computer interpolation of data. The exception of course being those AI enlargement programs offering miracle interpretation of data such as Gigapixel A!

It could be argued that in real photographic images rather than test images many of us would struggle to see the difference between 360 PPI and 720 PPI especially when taking into account "normal viewing distances" i.e. based on 1.5-2x diagonal print size.

One advantage is that 720 PPI allows to do print sharpening at that resolution and can increase edge acutance over 360 PPI.

How much it matters must be subject dependent and how much real data is there from the start

accepting YMMV :D
Thanks Tony for your enthusiastic response ;)

A lot of good info for everyone, and I agree with what you posted.

To be clear, my post was only about data loss when downsampling before even getting to printing.
Part of my goal with the Epson p900 is to have a simple set of heuristics to use when choosing resolutions at different parts of the workflow as well as the best settings to use, i.e., a set of go-to approaches that keep it simple yet confident I am getting the best result. I am not there yet, but getting a lot closer. I took this experimental path as there are to many "it depends" or "just print it both ways and see what looks better." Your post includes possible answers of 360, 720, and 1440. :) There are so many tidbits of advice out there that I am attempting to boil it all down for what works for me.

Thanks again for the detail, I will review it further.
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Yes, newer Epson printers - Workforce - Ecotank and large format printers come with 600 dpi printheads - same as Canon's printheads, but the number of nozzle rows on Canon printheads is much higher than on Epson printheads. Canon printheads need a separate row of nozzles for every droplet size, typically 2 per color, Epson can operate with different droplet sizes with the same nozzle row(s) which drops the nozzle rows to half of Canon printheads. This has a direct impact onto the ink amount of printhead cleaning actions which try to suck ink through every nozzle, higher nozzle counts improve printing speed - with this disadvantage of more waste ink consumption.

it would help to have a look to the angular resolution as well which is a fixed property of the eye, and calculating the resp. dpi for that viewing distance is a separate calculation, there are plenty of internet postings about this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angular_resolution

https://www.wikilectures.eu/w/Resolution_of_human_eye

https://clarkvision.com/imagedetail/eye-resolution.html

and more here - beyond my actual interest

https://9meters.com/technology/highest-resolution-the-eye-can-see

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-02653-w
Great info @Ink stained Fingers
I will review all the links
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I did wonder why Epson had made the move to 300/600 ppi rather than their usual 360/720. I had assumed, probably incorrectly, that there would be savings in the manufacturing process?

I remember Jeff Schewe writing about the difference in Canon 300/600 ppi vs Epson 360/720 ppi and if memory serves he was surprised that there was no measurable difference observed when he had half expected the Epson to show a little improvement.

Yes the clarkvision.com is one of the earliest ones I looked at relating to resolving power camera/prints/eye. Like you I think, I found some articles way outside of my photographic interest
I, too, find many articles outside my photographic interest (and sometimes outside my understanding). I also have to remind myself that what makes a good picture is multifaceted and, for me, what makes a viewer feel something. It goes beyond resolution, color gamut, color accuracy, paper type, and all the technical aspects we discuss. They are essential yet far from complete.
That is why I am focused on establishing some simple heuristics to spend more time on those other areas of a good image. The help on this forum has been great for getting to that goal.
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I did wonder why Epson had made the move to 300/600 ppi rather than their usual 360/720. I had assumed, probably incorrectly, that there would be savings in the manufacturing process?
Epson is producing millions of their printheads and sell them as well to other companies; the overall design - piezo elements etc was already quite old - it could be scaled to differents widths and nozzle rows, but just look to the
printhead of the WF2010W - just an entry level little printer from about 2012, Its printhead is still used in most entry level Ecotank printers - this after more than 10 years. And you see that as well with the higher count printheads - their design is pretty old. The is nothing wrong for the user, they last forever, but Epson came out with the new generation of printheads - they call it Precisioncore - which now runs with 600dpi. I remember some comments that the new design delivers a much better yield in production - the main reason for the new design was manufacturability and not so much adding particular features.

I remember as well a test of photo printers - long time ago in a photo magazine - not published anymore, and they tested the effective resolution on the paper - with the siemens star printed - this was a very rare test - I have not seen any other printer test in popular magazines testing resolution. The numbers were as you can expect them - Canon printers in the range of 300 - 320 dpi - and Epson printers in the range of 330 - 350 dpi which makes the 600/720 dpi difference. so yes - that's not really visible in prints - and barely visible in specific test patterns.

Up/downscaling - image data on the way to a printer passes through the same resampling software in the driver regardless if it is up or downsampling - or nothing at all if you feed data with correct dpi from other software - Qimage - PS - Lightroom whatever.
 
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