Canon Pro9500 Mark II -- Help with emptying Matte Black Cartridge

[The Hat]

InkMiser

Hi IM,
I cant figure out why youd want to waste good Canon ink, just keep on using it.
The replacement 3rd party inks I found are good enough to use without profiling.
But if you really want to empty the cartridge, place a folded up tissue under the outlet and it will drain rather quickly.
When the PGI-9 cartridges drains of ink there is no ink left inside except for the little sponge on the outlet hole.

stratman Worst cartridge to refill Canon has ever designed.

Incorrect there as easy as any other Canon cartridge, just newer..

 

[stratman]

Incorrect there as easy as any other Canon cartridge, just newer..

That interior plastic bag thingy is surely the work of the devil. That confirms our thoughts on whose side Canon is on. Bad Canon!

Do you think garlic and Holy water placed around my printer will keep it from misbehaving? Is there a printer exorcist in the house?



Seems like you solved the refill issue with your bottom hole method as seen from InkMiser's link. (the San Francisco Method??) How's that working out for you?

 

[InkMiser]

Hi [The] Hat,

I went through the "why waste perfectly good ink" discussion with myself and even did a bunch of prints, using up five cartridges this way. I wouldn't say the prints were bad, ok -- a few were, but they diverged significantly from my reference set which was made with the Canon inks and a profile I created with a SpyderPrint3. At the end of the day, it seemed that there were two ways of looking at the situation: (i) value each Canon cart at approx $12 and say "you're throwing away $60" or (ii) treat each Canon cart as worth about the cost of a refill, i.e. $5 altogether. Factoring in the time, cost of paper and annoyance of getting not great prints, it seemed like a no-brainer to me.

I'm using inks from InkJetCarts -- some users on this forum spoke well of them. I printed my profile targets last night, so they're ready to scan today. I'll then print up some shots I used in an exhibition last year and compare them to my remaining copies. Hopefully, I'll end up with a close match.

About draining the PGI-9's -- I know that if I drill a hole in the bottom, the difference in air pressure will make them drain easily. I tried holding them over a sink (undrilled), squeezing and shaking them. All of this only got a few drops out. Does your paper towel method work like a wick so that the ink is essentially sucked out of cartridge?

Thanks for your help.

IM

ps I agree that the PGI-9's aren't particularly difficult to refill. Given that the ink goes straight the sponge, I actually can't think of an easier cart to refill.

 

[marceltho]

stratman wrote:

Is there a printer exorcist in the house?

Actually there is.....ITS ME ! Send me your printer with a full 4 oz bottle-set, and I will exorcize this printer for you, and now the best.....FREE OF CHARGE !

 

[The Hat]

stratman
Do you think garlic and Holy water placed around my printer will keep it from misbehaving?

Gee Stratman I have never tried that, it just might come in handy dough.

InkMiser Does your paper towel method work like a wick.

It works on the principle of siphon and gravity, no hole needed and if you're ever drilling a hole make sure its centred on the > (best spot).
I have never tried filling by way of the sponge myself, I know some other forum members do use that method, its a bit slower but it works and that what counts..

 

[InkMiser]

if you're ever drilling a hole make sure its centred on the > (best spot)

Maybe I was using a dull bit but I was surprised how much drilling it took to pierce the cartridge. A few times, I ended up with leaking cartridges, although it wasn't as if the bit had gone all the way through the cartridge and out the other end of the bag. When I took one of the carts apart, I noticed that the plastic case had intruded (extruded?) into the bag. I wonder if I didn't cause some separation between the bag and the wall of the cartridge.

Another minor inconvenience was that I ended up with a raised ridge of plastic where I had drilled. This needed to be filed down so that the glue gun could make a flat seal.

 

[The Hat]

InkMiser

When you drill the hole it only needs to be 4 to 5mm deep no more otherwise you risk tearing a hole in the bag, which will render the cartridge useless.
No need to file the drill hole eider a little raised surface doesnt matter if the hole position is correct, those cartridges are not in fact airtight, their just used for easy handling and to hold the inner bag and counter weights in the correct position..
Double click to enlarge.

 

[stratman]

Does your paper towel method work like a wick so that the ink is essentially sucked out of cartridge?

Yes. For more see here: http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=5382.

Marceltho:
You are most generous.

 

[InkMiser]

Does your paper towel method work like a wick so that the ink is essentially sucked out of cartridge?

Yes. For more see here: http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=5382.

Thanks stratman and ghwellsjr! This is a really elegant solution, perfectly illustrated so that even I can follow it!

 

[InkMiser]

InkMiser

When you drill the hole it only needs to be 4 to 5mm deep no more otherwise you risk tearing a hole in the bag, which will render the cartridge useless.
No need to file the drill hole eider a little raised surface doesnt matter if the hole position is correct, those cartridges are not in fact airtight, their just used for easy handling and to hold the inner bag and counter weights in the correct position..
Double click to enlarge.

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This may be a dumb question but what type of drill do you use? I was holding a Black & Decker drill about the size of a ski boot in my right hand and the little cartridge in my left hand. Would a Dremel do the trick? Also, any particular type of bit? I was surprised how long it took me to drill the cartridges.