RIP IP4700 - You've lived a good life!

[Ant]

ouch! that was below the belt The Hat

Reality tends to have a very big bite and I was only trying to give it to you straight, sorry.
The newer printers are just not designed to last as long as the older ones,
that is why it is so painful to have one, die on you; they become part of the family.

you're 100% correct though I know, *sighs* I wonder how long our working relationship will last?

 

[Ant]

to see your total pages printed you'd need to get into service mode and print out your EEPROM report.

here is a partial paste from my 5 year old MP830. TPAGE=37,566

note the waste pad usage D= 1.1%, this was just after i changed the pads and reset. prior to the waste pad change D=95%

J

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MP830 US Vl.14 IF(USB2=1) D=001.1 ST=2008/01/17-09:18
ER(ER0=1700 ERl=5100) LPT=20L3/03/OL-O7 249
PC(M=012 R=017 T=541 D=000 C=168)
cLT(BK=2O] -3/ 03 / 01-06 z4 L CL=2OL3/ 03 / 01-06 : 41)
CH=O00L0 CT(PBK=004 BK=017 Y=005 M=006 C=007) IS(PBK=O BK=O Y=0 M=0 C=0)
P-ON ( S=00179 ) A_REG=L M-REG=O
UR(A(BKoe)=+01 B(Coe)=+01 C(Moe) =+01 D(SCoe) =-03 E(SMoe) =-03
c(Cl,bi) =+01 H(SCLbl) =+02 I (C-SC) =+01 J(M-SM) =+01 K(BK-CL) =000
F (PBKoe) =+01
L(BKbiPP) =000 M(CLb1PP) =000 N(SCLbiPP) =+02 O(Nzctr) =000 P(NZedge) =009
WP=5256 CDIN(LG=000 PB=002 OPB=000) MSD(255)
TPAGE=37566 (TTt-,=37566 FAX=00219 COPY=05166)
PAGE(A11=07063 PP=06917 HR+MP=00080 PR+SP+SG=00065 GP=00000 PC=00000 EV=00000)
UCPAGE(A11=30141 PP=30132 HR+MP=00004 PR+SP+SG=00005 GP=00000 PC=00000 EV=00000)
BPPAGE(A 11=00362 BSSP=00000 PC=00000)
CDPAGE(A11=aaag11 EDGE=00008 L=00001 CDR=00000
CDRP 000000r000000) CORS1 07) LF=2 LMASF_R:00 UT_F:00 UT_R:00)
<Direct>
LG=02 English SC=000 Seal=000 CDI=259 CDP=000
CDD-PR(L=OOO 2L=000 PC=000 A4=O00) CDD-SP(L=000 2L=0O0 PC=000 A4=000)
CDD-MP(L=000 2L=000 PC=000 A4=Q99) DCD-PP(L=000 2L=Qgg PC=000 A4=9991
DCD-FPP(L=0OL 2L=000 PC=QQO A4=Q99) DCD-MPP(L=0O0 2L=000 PC=000 A4=000)
<Scanner>
SC=0401-7
SC-dpj-(75=00000 150=00000 300=02719
SG(GY=00000 CL=00000)
<copy>
MCASF(PP=00726 SP+PR+GP=00000 OTH=00000)
MCUT( PP=03792 SP+PR+GP=00000O TH=00000)
CCASF( PP=00039 I IR+MP=00001P R+SP+SG=00001
CCUT( PP=0O366 HR+MP=00000P R+SP+SG=00000
600=0L298 l-200=0O000 2400=00000 4800=00000)

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J

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Printers: Canon MP830, IP4500, MX700, MX860, MX870, MP980
Method: German Durchstich Method
Ink: Hobbicolors and OCP
Misc: Squeeze bottles - so much easier than syringes

just wondering how we can pull that off with the newer printers as there is only one button (power button) on my printer?

 

[PeterBJ]

Ant wrote:

just wondering how we can pull that off with the newer printers as there is only one button (power button) on my printer?

I didn't understand that question, so I checked the specs for the MG6220 and found it had only one traditional push button switch, the rest of the push buttons are replaced by illuminated touch sensors. So I see the problem with entering service mode on this printer, as you normally need both the on/off and stop/cancel buttons to enter service mode.

I found this discussion on the druckerchannel.de forum: http://www.druckerchannel.de/forum.php?seite=beitrag&ID=242505&t=servicemode_bei_mg6250_ or a Google translation: http://translate.google.dk/translat...te=beitrag&ID=242505&t=servicemode_bei_mg6250

It seems that even if the touch sensors are not lit, they are still active, so entering service mode should be possible.

Procedures for entering service mode is not the same for all Canon printers, so you may need the instructions from the service manual, which I think is nowhere to be found, if the standard procedure for entering service mode doesn't work. Maybe the procedure from the service manual for the smaller model MG5220 is useful? You find a download link here: http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=60849#p60849 and scroll down to post #85 for download instructions.

You will also need a Canon Service Tool program for performing service mode operations on the newer printers. You find download links and instructions in this thread: http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=7416&p=1

There are different versions of the service tool, and only the newest versions work with both 32 and 64 bit Windows, the older versions only work with 32 bit Windows. The service tools work with Windows XP, Vista, and 7. I don't know if they also work with Windows 8.

Also note the service tool doesn't work with a wireless connection, you have to use a USB connection to perform service mode operations even if your printer is wireless.

I would not recommend experimenting with service mode operations, if there is no problems with the printer, as service mode operations are "uncharted territory" with this printer, but if you try it, please report your results in the service tool thread.

 

[dvdit]

RMM,

Good move buying a few of the ip4700s. I bought mine for $35 new from amazon with free shipping. I should have grabbed at least 2 or3 more for that price. The ink alone cost more than that. Well, my IP4700 just started giving me error B200. I am looking to replace it but don't know with what. From the ones you owned which one is a good replacement that also has an capability for CD/DVD printing, iP4600, MX860, MP560 ? Any other models I should look at? Other opinions welcome. Thanks.

 

[The Hat]

The B200 error is usually caused by high temp. in the heads so you could try giving it a good bath,
I mean leave it soaking in some hot water for a few hours.

If after the good cleaning and drying, it still doesnt work then youll have to shop around for a new print head
but dont dump your printer its still well worth getting a new head for it..

 

[dvdit]

Hey there the Hat,

I did sock the head with half Windex and half warm bottled water mix and let it sock a an hour and let it dry over a few days and I get error back after prtnting a page or two. I did this twice with the same error B200 message. I will your suggestion and report back.

 

[dvdit]

OK, did what the good gentleman, The Hat suggested but now I get the B200 error at first cleaning. So what is the good source for genuine OEM print head. Google did not return any expect one on Ebay. Thanks.

 

[The Hat]

OK, did what the good gentleman, The Hat suggested but now I get the B200 error at first cleaning. So what is the good source for genuine OEM print head. Google did not return any expect one on Ebay. Thanks.

Here are several for you to browse through before making up your mind..
http://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Canon-QY6-0072-Printhead-Printer/dp/B002Q29I62
http://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Canon-QY6-0072-Printhead-Printer/sim/B002Q29I62/2
http://www.inkjetprinthead.com/canon_printhead_for_pixma_ip4600_ip4700_mp640.htm

 

[dvdit]

The Hat,

Thank you. Is it worth spending $80 somewhat on ip4700 rather than buying one of the new Canon printers for the same or less cash? What are the pros and cons. What if the problem is not the print head?

 

[The Hat]

The Hat,

Thank you. Is it worth spending $80 somewhat on ip4700 rather than buying one of the new Canon printers for the same or less cash? What are the pros and cons. What if the problem is not the print head?

Many guys in exactly the same situation as yourself have asked that same question,
but to be honest I think there has only be one report on here
of a new print head not working out and getting the printer back working again.

Its going to be a leap of faith on your part, do you like your old 4700 enough to chance it after all,
effetely you'll then have a new printer and you wont have to change a thing to be up and running again..