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Interesting, in the price comparison they omit Lidl.
 

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Here's another fallacy: things being made in the same factory are necessarily the same. They may very well not be the same, even if they use the same ingredients. Sometimes I hear people complain about this or that being made in China or even the same factory. A supplier factory has the processes to provide the same product in many different qualities and with very different quality assurance. It depends on the customer.

Getting this out of the way, I hardly see why I should be brand conscious about the inks of my printer but not the things that touch my palate. Whatever I have ever tried from Lidl is of the lowest possible quality... Let alone the dubious management and terrible working conditions. On the other hand you're right that it might not be that different from other discount retailers, which I rarely use anyway.

You are mistaken. Food WHICH IS WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT is made up of various ingredients, and i can assure you as an example the flour used to bake a branded loaf in certain factories will be the exact same as what is going in the non branded loaf. The same workers will chuck the ingredients into the same large scale mixing device, there is no difference, costs are different based on other factors a couple of examples being...
1) Packaging both who packages the food and what quality the package is. Your posh loaf may come in a nice foil wrapped bag with multiple pretty design pictures, where as your own brand cheap loaf will be in a common clear plastic bag with basic print.
2) Cooking method. The posh loaf may be baked longer for example to give a crustier crust compared to the cheaper loaf. Costs are thus saved in time to manufacture and the cost (IE energy used to cook the loaf).

This makes no difference to what you end up putting in your mouth. THE FOOD (IE the important bit) came from the same place. Its the same ingredients.

Electronics and non-organic things which are constructed by hand are a different matter, its the quality of the work which will often make a difference in those items, software if its electronics (IE license rights and costs) uses, if the company flogging the device provides support (call centres and highstreet stores so not pay for thereself) and so much more make the difference... not the components that make the items in most cases.

A raspberry pi is a good example, those were manufactured in both Wales in the UK and overseas....... The components used are the EXACT SAME.

Plastics used in an top end mobile phone and the glue that typically holds stuff like that together will likely be the same glue as what holds some cheapo mobile phone together. Components used it in will often be the same or similar also (example the wifi antennas).

A rockchip processor of a certain spec in a mobile can be the exact same component in a £100 phone or a £200 phone. The £100 phone maybe some generic chinese brand you have never heard of while the £200 phone may be a Samsung or similar....... The cost different will be down to manufacturing scale, a bit due to the name badge and personal that constructed it. Along with Samsung having to pay for various factories and call centres world wide unlike the generic chinese device.

In the case of say an Apple phone a portion of what you pay will be for the brick and mortar stores they have to operate and the support you get with that product over a chinese clone. Bugger all to do with it say having a "better" wifi antenna in it which was probably produced or even the exact same item as in many cheaper phones.

The core ingredient in many cases will be the same, quality of the construction may indeed vary and the support you get with the product, thats the difference between that and food.

Brand snobbery is a stupid thing, even in regard to many electronics, especially when people argue "oh its better components in my name brand item than in your generic item". It is not. Half the components in modern electronics wont be made by Apple, sony, LG, samsung or any others (insert your fave brand snobbery here) you care to name. Half the stuff will be made via various components other companies produce and normally they are produced in the millions by some plant in the far east.

The cost difference comes via the assembly of the product (how well its put together) the name (because people like you would sooner pay for a name on the case) and so much more.

Open up a modern Television if you do not believe me which is a brand name, then look at all the chips etc in it and see how many have other companies brand names on the chips to the badge on the outside.

Badge envy no matter how you want to present it half the time is just stupid, unless the brand is actually producing EVERYTHING that goes into that item itself. Which is few and far between nowadays.
 
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Probably because Lidl is somewhat better, Maybe… :mad:

I would not worry based on his food choice he probably thinks cos it says "French" on the jar all the ingredients are French rather than just the company. In fact if its anything like "Fosters lager" it may not even be French (Fosters is brewed in the UK, even though many think its Australian). Again clever advertising and branding for the gullible at its finest.


EDIT: just googled and shock of shock that *COUGH* French jam is a UK company :gigbrand snobbery and the humour it brings is limitless :D
 

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If we didn't have brand snobbery the would be only one variety of everything.
 

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You are mistaken. Food WHICH IS WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT is made up of various ingredients, and i can assure you as an example the flour used to bake a branded loaf in certain factories will be the exact same as what is going in the non branded loaf. The same workers will chuck the ingredients into the same large scale mixing device, there is no difference, costs are different based on other factors a couple of examples being...
1) Packaging both who packages the food and what quality the package is. Your posh loaf may come in a nice foil wrapped bag with multiple pretty design pictures, where as your own brand cheap loaf will be in a common clear plastic bag with basic print.
2) Cooking method. The posh loaf may be baked longer for example to give a crustier crust compared to the cheaper loaf. Costs are thus saved in time to manufacture and the cost (IE energy used to cook the loaf).

This makes no difference to what you end up putting in your mouth. THE FOOD (IE the important bit) came from the same place. Its the same ingredients.
In the USA, the above are not the only situations with food manufacturers. Brand name overruns may be sold to or distributed by other brands, whether they are subsidiaries or 3rd parties I cannot say. Additionally, even though the same plant is used to make the food, a non-brand name may use same or similar ingredients but must have some significant difference in ingredients or quantitative mixture or else risk litigation, ie it cannot be the same.
 
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