PGI-9 Chip Resetters - FINALLY!

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Very quickly wanted to note that after a fair amount of prodding my manufacturer contacts finally decided that they'd need to produce one of these to get them off their back (well, sort of ) and I've just taken delivery of the very first PGI-9 REdSETTER units today.

Resetting is pretty much the same as all other REdSETTER units but with a slight quirk to watch out for so I did a video intro on the process which is now included on the product listing here:
http://www.octoink.co.uk/products/Canon-PGI%2d9-Chip-Resetter-for-Pro-9500-Mk-II.html

... and because I've been able to do a whole lot more while waiting for these to come out, I've also been able to get some other bits and bobs together to create some new refill bundles specifically for the PGI-9 [9500 Pro] along with developing a simpler refill approach complete with pre-modified clips.
http://www.octoink.co.uk/categories/Refill-Kit-Bundles/Canon-Compatible/Pro-Bundles/

Apologies for the overtly commercial nature of things... I'm in a rush to get orders out the door and deal with a workshop move this week so bear with me.

For speed, and for your reference, the refilling approach I've worked out removes the need for scales (although you can use them to confirm), syringe or anything other than a SquEasyFill ink set and the modified clips (which I've called InkClip9 for reference)... Video will follow as soon as I've had a chance to edit out all the Erm's and Ah's.

 

[The Hat]

Nice one websnail, I most certainly have to get it so please hold one back for me before they all sell out

 

[stratman]

Ello, ello, ello! Good video, guvna.

 

[websnail]

Thanks folks...

Just spent the last 3 hours trying to sort out some refill technique video as well but I'm bushed so t'will be tomorrow.. Coming along nicely though.

 

[jtoolman]

Here are my videos on how I refill the PGI-9 carts
With the addition of you resetter, I can use the original chip rather than autoreset ones.

http://www.youtube.com/my_videos_edit?ns=1&video_id=VjgQIWLw10M
http://www.youtube.com/my_videos_edit?ns=1&video_id=mGBzHSQx5bU

 

[The Hat]

Here are my videos on how I refill the PGI-9 carts
With the addition of you resetter, I can use the original chip rather than autoreset ones.

http://www.youtube.com/my_videos_edit?ns=1&video_id=VjgQIWLw10M
http://www.youtube.com/my_videos_edit?ns=1&video_id=mGBzHSQx5bU

Joe the two links you provided are not working for me but the ones in your signature are?
Wait and see the new way websnail has devised for refilling the PGI-9s and youll really be amazed.

 

[jtoolman]

Sorry, you are right!

 

[websnail]

Hi Jtoolman...

I remember watching your videos a ways back and they were pretty good... in fact the general quality of the resources on the 9500 have been a boon. The approach I've gone with though, is more specific to the SquEasyFill system so it's still new... I'll be referring to other resources though, when I've had time to stop and catch my breath.

Way too much to get done yet.


In other news... the first draft of my refill approach is here:
http://www.octoink.co.uk/_video/pgi9-refill/

... frankly, I don't like the quality of the guide at all now, with so much information left out, poor script (or is that "What script?!") and well, it's a learning process... Gives you an idea of the approach I've gone for though and you may well have some comments on it.


It'll get a re-do once I've sorted other jobs but as a overall "How to", it could be worse...

 

[jtoolman]

WHen you screw in your bottle to the adapter and you squeeze ink in, there is a chance that you then can re suck ink back out unless you keep the squeeze bottle squeezed as you detach it. Notice you did have to add / dribble quite a bit of ink to get the ink bag it totally full. After haveing done this quite a number of times I have found the dribble method to be just a bit slower than using a syringe and adapter. The syringe method will let you fill to about an ml from totally fulll which for me has been a total cart / ink weight of 41-43 grams. It seems that there is a difference of a couple of ML volume which can be injected in these ink bags. As I get total weights that vary from 41 to 43 grams when totally full.

I use the squeeze bottles when top filling CLI-8 carts though as I can pull out the needle from the fill hole before I let the bottle re expand after squeezing it.

Do you feel back pressure when you use the sqeeze bottles on the PGI-9 carts once the bag is filled?
I should check that with a syringe to see if that's the case.

The video is very nicely produced great job.
I will a bunch of my friends know about your resetter.

 

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WHen you screw in your bottle to the adapter and you squeeze ink in, there is a chance that you then can re suck ink back out unless you keep the squeeze bottle squeezed as you detach it. Notice you did have to add / dribble quite a bit of ink to get the ink bag it totally full.

Appreciate the feedback... The lack of attention to the pull back from the bottle after refilling is one of the key reasons I want to do re-do the whole thing.

In truth the dribble part is so long because I was in waffle mode in all of my takes so I pulled what I could out from the material and then decided to add the humour too just to keep myself sane!... It kind of backfires though in terms of selling the whole idea.

After haveing done this quite a number of times I have found the dribble method to be just a bit slower than using a syringe and adapter. The syringe method will let you fill to about an ml from totally fulll which for me has been a total cart / ink weight of 41-43 grams. It seems that there is a difference of a couple of ML volume which can be injected in these ink bags. As I get total weights that vary from 41 to 43 grams when totally full.

I found the weight to be considerably less on the yellow at around 33 grams and from memory I remember The Hat saying that was the target weight... Are you sure you don't mean 31-33g?

I use the squeeze bottles when top filling CLI-8 carts though as I can pull out the needle from the fill hole before I let the bottle re expand after squeezing it.

Yeah, there's different quirks and technique tips with the bottles and I'm aware it's not perfect by any means... Problem with syringes is that you need the scales to double check and the pigment sandpapers the inside of the syringe barrel over time.. That and the extra fill/empty hassles... Still n'all I recognise I'm totally biased

Do you feel back pressure when you use the sqeeze bottles on the PGI-9 carts once the bag is filled?

The bottle itself provides the back pressure so yes that's the case... Same thing happens with German method refilling on the sponge carts with other Pixma printers so there's a definite knack to it. Easy enough to figure it mind. Of course the back pressure is what I used in the video to help pull the air out of the cartridge too so there's pluses/minuses here.

I should check that with a syringe to see if that's the case.

A syringe won't have that problem as it's not on elastic...

The video is very nicely produced great job.
I will a bunch of my friends know about your resetter.

Thanks... I'll be honest, I think it's one of my worst to date but it's given me a clear idea of what I need to include in a do-over so it's not wasted effort... and it's helped get some ideas out in the open for discussion so on balance, could have been a worse outcome... Right home and bed for me I think...