Need help on selecting a printer

[bfallona]

Would like some help in selecting a printer. I had a Canon S900 which gave up the ghost. I will probably get another Canon. But with the new chipped cartridges, may not want to deal with that. My choices have narrowed down to the Canon iP6600d, ip6220d, iP6000d, iP4600, iP4300, iP4200. I am on Ebay a lot and probably will buy one there to keep the price down. Trying to keep it under $100. I have a laser to print text on and have just scanned hundreds of old family photos which are mainly B&W. In the S900 I used 3rd party cartridges and have ink to try to refill new printer. But I am concerned about the chipped ones. I have read here that the new ones have to have the chip moved to the new 3rd party cartridges and that Canon will slow the printer down if you don't use their cartridges. Any advice would be appreciated. I have been reading this forum for a long time, just soaking up the great deal of knowledge that is here.

 

[ghwellsjr]

I do not have any direct experience with the new printers that use the chipped cartridges so I cannot answer your questions regarding them but if you want to avoid those printers and you want to easily refill your cartridges, then the only printer you list that fits those qualifications is the iP6000d. However, I doubt that you will find it for under $100 but I see that Amazon has some new ones for $160 and up. Better get one--fast.

 

[bfallona]

Thanks for the reply. Since Ebay is blowing out a lot of the newer chipped printers, I thought I would try just refilling one of them after the original ink ran out. I know from reading the forum I would lose the ink monitor. Would the printer slow down at that point? I have read conflicting reports on this board. So you think the iP6000 is a good enough printer?

 

[WhiteDog]

The ip6000D easily produces continuous-tone dot-free output. It is amazing. I made a previous post about this. I bought two when Amazon had them for $99.00. They were actually sold by Adorama and the carriage was $27 each direct from Adorama, though $12 for two from Amazon. Figure.

 

[Xalky]

Thanks for the reply. Since Ebay is blowing out a lot of the newer chipped printers, I thought I would try just refilling one of them after the original ink ran out. I know from reading the forum I would lose the ink monitor. Would the printer slow down at that point? I have read conflicting reports on this board.

The print speed does not slow down after you lose ink monitoring. Just make sure you buy good quality ink from a source reccomended on this forum. I buy mine from mikling ie: precisioncolors.com .

 

[bfallona]

I found this on A Lot Of Things :
CLI-8 based printers will run slower using refilled cartridges.



31/10/2006 00:14
Canon PIXMA iP4200, iP5200, iP5200R, iP6600D, MP500, MP800 & MP950 will run slower if using refilled cartridges according to Canon. <P>CLI-8 based printers will run slower using refilled cartridges.</P>
<P>According to Canon technical support the following printers which use CLI-8 ink tanks will perform slower when printing multi-page documents on refilled cartridges:</P>
<P>Canon PIXMA iP4200, iP5200, iP5200R, iP6600D, MP500, MP800, MP950.</P>
<P>What is not mentioned by Canon is that this also occurs on new third party replacement cartridges if those cartridges are using Canon chips on them. (Such as the G&amp;G CLI-8 replacements without chip)</P>
<P>According to Canon technical support the print speed will recover once you have remove and reset the ink tank in the printer. In other words... Once you buy another one of their cartridges. </P>

 

[Xalky]

That's the first I've heard of it. I haven't run into that yet but I still have one cartridge left that's not showing as empty. Woh, that would suck major hose.

Can anyone else here corraborate this??

What constitutes a multipage document. IE; Is it one print job with several different pictures or is it several copies of the same picture? or is it what it says, a multipage document, such as a three page document? Personally, I use a b/w laser printer for documents 99% of the time. I really only use the color inkjet for pictures.

I'll have to wait and see what happens after the last one reads empty. Then I can print a picture with "empty" cartridges vs. the same pic with new OEM cartridges and time it. It's gonna happen soon. I'll let y'all know.

BTW: I found your reference on the "a lot of things" page. My printer the ip6700d is not listed as one of the printers affected by the slow down. I'm not sure if it was available back in October. It almost seems borderline illegal. This whole printer ink thing is gonna come to a head pretty soon in court...I can smell it coming.

 

[WhiteDog]

I bought an ip6600d for $79 new in the box and I intend to experiment with this, though I have not so far set it up. IMO Canon is getting pretty close to the no-no line with crippling the printer if you do not buy their ink. They might be in violation of Federal Trade law requiring disclosure in advance of purchase. They might be required to tell you how much the average user will spend on their ink for the expected average life of the print head. The criterion might be "materiality", which is to say if the machine departs from the average of that class of equiment, or if it varies from the published specs by more than 10%, there might be a requirement to disclose. I am sure we will hear of some young wolf in legal clothing picking this up for fame and money.

 

[Xalky]

I am sure we will hear of some young wolf in legal clothing picking this up for fame and money.

I know a couple of those guys. I think I'm gonna see if I can get thier interest. It costs a lot of money to get a class action suit to take off. The problem is, whats the payoff to the law firm? How much would a court award 1000s of inkjet consumers and 3rd party resellers? If you can get the court to agree on the potential profits gained by the Inkjet manufacturers vs what it would have cost to buy third party ink, then you might have a very lucrative case. It would take a large New York law firm with deep pockets to pursue it. I live 60 miles from Manhattan. I do a lot of remodeling work for people that work in the city and commute back and forth from thier homes in Connecticut. I'm rambling, but the gears are turning over time.:/

 

[bfallona]

I do not have any direct experience with the new printers that use the chipped cartridges so I cannot answer your questions regarding them but if you want to avoid those printers and you want to easily refill your cartridges, then the only printer you list that fits those qualifications is the iP6000d. However, I doubt that you will find it for under $100 but I see that Amazon has some new ones for $160 and up. Better get one--fast.

Got one today on Ebay ( lightly used to print Xmas card) for $63) Glad I got one before they are all gone.