Epson photo L800 whit original CISS system " ink resistance"!

[Borut]

http://www.wilhelm-research.com/epson/WIR_Epson_L355_and_L800_2014_08_20.pdf

I whana buy this L800 photo printer, inks are bad, but i can use other inks?
Compatible Claria mybe?

 

[martin0reg]

Yes you can use all sort of ink .. like with refillable carts in a P50 (= L800 without the ciss).
Claria compatible should be no problem, the epson printhead even takes pigment, but the ciss might be the problem as the ink comes out at the bottom .. pigment can build up a deposit ..

But I am not sure about the serial numbers on the bottles...my L300 do not need these numbers to refill..
http://www.printerknowledge.com/thr...anks-system-aka-ciss-product-line.9131/page-2


PS: Thank you for the link to wilhelm-research!
The results are indeed bad regarding fading in air/ozone.
But what I don't understand: the same ink on photo paper is fading after 1 month, on plain paper after 30 years???
And the 4 channel ink (L355) seems to be different from 6 channel ink (L800) !?

Indeed the epson bottled ink seems to be NO claria...but how are the results of other 3rd party inks? Are there any tests on wilhelm-research of 3rd party ink? Comparisons would be helpful...

 

[martin0reg]

I found this polish site, where the L-series seems to be running well:
http://www.druk.medikon.pl/pl/katalog/fotograficzne-drukarki-epson-ciss
No tests of resistance but they are praising the "gamut" of the ink..
(you can download ICC profiles for 3rd party photo paper

 

[Borut]

in our country they say all http://www.l800.si/podpora.htm abaut low cost printing and nothing abaut fade resistance
and to use tecco dryllab papers and not opson papers.
Abaut resistance ,they say dye inks are just dye inks and nothing more))
http://www.l800.si/barve.htm#obstojnost

Martin do you use original inks in your Epson?

And no one haw pictures for 17 years.
I dont whana go look on pictures after years and find bad thing in my album.
Also they sell and recomend this printer to photograps.
here are advices for them also haw to dry pics::
http://www.l800.si/podpora.htm

 

[martin0reg]

Until now I am using the original bottles of ink, but I have my L300 just for two weeks, will try other inks in future.
In general you should not expect long endurance of 3rd party dye ink, claria and canon OEM (which both you can buy only in cartridges) seems to be much better (and much more expensive..) Sadly non-OEM ink is rarely tested.
Here is a comparison of different inks for epson by pharmacist:
http://www.printerknowledge.com/threads/my-new-epson-stylus-photo-1500w-artisan-1430.8482/page-4

Thank you for the links - if you know any ICC profiles for the L-300 series please post a link!

 

[Borut]

Hi!
I just instal today ciss in my photo printer.
I did buy dye inks from profesional user that makes big prints whit profesional printers
ink are made in germany,pigments are from switzerland..he say and he use this inks more then
10 years.
There are numbers of inks on the net but which is the best???

I can tell ,that ciss works better then compatible inks.

 

[cls]

what a marketing B$ pigments from switzerland... there is NONE manufactuere in switzerland producing ANY kind of dye or pigments for coloration or ink purposes most of the stuff coms from korea, singapore and china

I just modified another epson printer with a Mainboard form a L800 and put it on auction today http://www.ebay.com/itm/121459681101

 

[Borut]

what a marketing B$ pigments from switzerland... there is NONE manufactuere in switzerland producing ANY kind of dye or pigments for coloration or ink purposes most of the stuff coms from korea, singapore and china

I just modified another epson printer with a Mainboard form a L800 and put it on auction today http://www.ebay.com/itm/121459681101

oh my bad then....did not now sozz

what inks did you use in that modified printer?

 

[cls]

i use both inktec and ocp inks

 

[martin0reg]

OCP is well known...but the dyes don't seem to have good UV resistance (see the link in posting #5)

BTW there is ink from switzerland, at least they claim it:
http://www.3ppp3.dk/ink/epson/312904.html
(sorry no bulk ink here)