Canon Pixma MP130 prints BLACK in 6.75mm alternate stripes

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I don't know if this will work. This is the image of the colour print and then the same picture printed in black. This shows the result of a Greyscale print job sent from the computer. It did work !!
 

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Hello The Hat, I have had some trouble in uploading the picture, I have done so, but it is not connected to THIS string. I see that it in page 2.
 

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Johnmorag said:
[url]http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/uploads/thumbs/8997_canon_mp130_test_page.jpeg[/url]
I don't know if this will work. This is the image of the colour print and then the same picture printed in black. This shows the result of a Greyscale print job sent from the computer. It did work !!
You done a good job with your upload and it can be seen quite clearly.

Now for the bad news
Your print head is fried, bad, dead, finished no longer usable.

Youll have to get yourself a new print head if you want to print greyscale normally again.
Now I know you said your printer works with only one cartridge present,
but if you look at your print out again youll see the direct result of that, a fried print head.

You need to keep two cartridges in your printer at all times and be very sure that theres ink in both of them
before you start to print anything, otherwise youll damage the print head beyond repair again as this one clearly shows.

I am sorry I cant offer you a cheaper solution to your problem except to say be careful when you install a new print head
because it needs ink inside it to function correctly, stay cool and to print, even if you are not going to use any black in your prints.

It might be wiser to consider buying a new printer as a cheaper alternative to buying a print head.
 

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Thank you for all your help and the time you have taken. As you say it would be cheaper to buy a new printer than a print head, I have seen them for 53 up to 90. As it is I have other printers, so I am not too upset. I still find it very odd that it will make a perfect BLACK copy with a, as you put it 'fried' print head. To prove that it was using only BLACK ink, although you said don't do it, I removed the colour cartridge. I still need this explaining. I still think it could be to do with a corrupt message being sent from the computer. I am going to spend some time to see if there are other printer drivers for the MP130. Thanks again for your interest.
 

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Johnmorag:

There isn't a wealth of information about your MP130 on the forum as it is not a refill-friendly printer, so we use the knowledge we have of many other Canon printers to formulate answers to your issues. The Hat is one of the resident experts on Canons and I agree with his posts. That your printer functions with only one cartridge installed is a true anomaly on this forum. Thank you for that interesting tidbit.

The image you uploaded is important information. Still, a nozzle check would be the first thing I would want to see, then any other images thought to be important. What someone describes may not adequately tell the complete nozzle check story, so we like to see the nozzle check for ourselves.

1) If a nozzle check shows absence of ink in the "black" section, which I assume comes from your pigment black cartridge, then you either have a clog in that section of the print head, a poorly performing cartridge (try a new OEM Canon cartridge), an electrical contact issue (clean electrical contacts with isopropyl alcohol and a lint-free cloth or else use a soft pencil eraser), the print head is bad for whatever reason and cannot be fixed, or you have a logic board assay failure. The first three are remediable for no or low cost. The latter two are expensive fixes and, given the cost of this printer, you are better off getting a new printer.

2) Traditionally, Canon uses pigment ink on plain paper but not on photo paper. What paper type setting are you printing your image on?

3) Traditionally, Canon does not allow printing to continue until all cartridges are in the print head and they are not marked as empty. The reason is that Canon print heads need the cooling effect of ink on the heated print heads in order to prevent destruction of the internal mechanism. I find it a failure of prudence to allow printing to continue on this low end model because the typical individual using this model may not be as observant of print head failure from ink starvation as a person who refills and is cognizant of this potential calamity. In other words, Canon's failure in letting you print without both cartridges installed and with a reservoir of usable ink is asking for print head failures leading to increased expense for the customer. Stop printing without both cartridges inserted and filled with some ink as this will not end well if continued or let to go on for a long enough period of time in a single print session.

4) Traditionally, the Copy function uses the color ink (dye-based ink) because it is, I believe, treated as if you were printing a photo. (see #2 above) One way to tell what ink - pigment or dye - is being used is to print something, let it dry completely, and then run tap water over a part of the print. If the ink runs more than a very small amount then it is dye-based ink (which is water soluble).

5) Clogs are not usually symmetric. Nature abhors straight lines. While still possible you have a clog, the money is on a print head failure, especially since you have not remarked on any error message popping up.

What can you do? Try soaking/flushing the print head. This may take days to remove a stubborn clog. Do only nozzle checks until the issue is resolved. You could try a new pigment black cartridge. You could try cleaning the electrical contacts of the print head and where it contacts the inside of the printer. You could try a different print head. You could uninstall the printer's drivers and associated software, reboot and then reinstall the printer drivers and associated software - a real long shot but won't cost you a cent except for your time.
 

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Some info for people still wanting to troubleshoot this.
This multifunction is using QY60054000 printhead and BCI-24BK black and BCI-24C tricolor cartridges. There are no sensors to detect the presence of cartridges and level of ink (the cartridges are not chipped, are opaque and full sponged). The printer assumes the presence of cartridges and estimates the ink level by drop counting. So it "trust" the user about the presence and "fullness" of cartridges.

Johnmorag
As stratman said, post a nozzle check, preferable from standalone mode.

As an alternative to buy a new printhead, you may try to find a used, functional or defective (but not because of printhead) printer from following models with same printhead:
I 450, 470 D, 450 D, 450 X, 475 D, 455
Smartbase MP 360, 370, 390, 360 S
Pixma IP 1500, IP 2000, MP 110, MP 130, MP 390
 

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gigigogu said:
As an alternative to buy a new printhead, you may try to find a used, functional or defective (but not because of printhead) printer from following models with same printhead:
I 450, 470 D, 450 D, 450 X, 475 D, 455
Smartbase MP 360, 370, 390, 360 S
Pixma IP 1500, IP 2000, MP 110, MP 130, MP 390
Good idea for saving money, gigigogu. :woot

Thrift shops and Salvation Army can be great places to find printers on the cheap.
 

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8997_canon_mp130_nozzle_check.jpeg

As requested.
This is the Canon MP130 nozzle check image. It is easy to see that there are one or two gaps in the grid, but the most important thing is that the bottom half of the grid is missing, in the same way that it shows up on a black print job.
 

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8997_black_copy_of_colour_image.jpeg

For general interest, this is a BLACK copy of a colour image, using only a BLACK ink cartridge (ink tank) in the printhead, to prove that it is only using black ink. It is not perfect, but as it does not show the blank white stripes, how does that indicate that the printhead is blocked?
 

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As I have already mentioned, I have other printers, so I will continue to try all the ideas suggested as an academic exercise. I will leave the printhead soaking for several days if necessary. I will clean the electrical contacts. I have only used basic copy paper for all my printing, I mainly do black printing. I have already uninstalled and reinstalled the printer driver, with no improvement. The ink seems to be dye-based. I only tried printing with one or other cartridge removed to prove a point, I have not done this before the problem occurred and understand why it is necessary to make sure that sufficient ink is available at all times.
After today, It will be a few days before I return to this topic. Thanks for all the help and suggestions
 
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