Canon Pg-210 Refill

[brady38]

Can I refill the Canon PG-210 cartridge with dye based ink in lieu of pigment ink without damaging the cartridge or the printer?

Thanks

Dave

 

[sathyakala]

It is preferable to refill with the right kind of ink (pigment with Pigment and Dye with Dye). Having said that I searched this topic earlier and my understanding is that you cannot mix pigment and Dye ink and you cannot use pigment in place of Dye ink (tend to clog). Hence using Dye instead of Pigment may be OK provided there are no residual Pigment ink in the cart. If the cart is flushed (and all ink removed), it may be safe to use dye instead of Pigment. I am still new to Inkjet Printer and am still learning and please wait for someone else to respond/confirm.

Why do you want to do this?

 

[The Hat]

It is preferable to refill with the right kind of ink (pigment with Pigment and Dye with Dye). Having said that I searched this topic earlier and my understanding is that you cannot mix pigment and Dye ink and you cannot use pigment in place of Dye ink (tend to clog). Hence using Dye instead of Pigment may be OK provided there are no residual Pigment ink in the cart. If the cart is flushed (and all ink removed), it may be safe to use dye instead of Pigment. I am still new to Inkjet Printer and am still learning and please wait for someone else to respond/confirm.

Why do you want to do this?

Its a safe bet to put dye ink into the pigment cartridge without having to purge it first but not the other way round..

 

[mrelmo]

the hat is correct, i stopped using the pigment black in my 220 cartridge several months ago, i now use just black dye and the print is darker, i may be giving up the smudge "proofness" of the pigment black but i don't use a high lighter so it is not an issue for me

 

[lin]

brady38, unless you can find pigment ink that has the same quality as canon and that you print regularly, otherwise use dye ink for the PG-210. You have lesser amount of problem to deal with particularly with the clog.

 

[rogert]

Ok, I'm confused.. Are Canon cartridges normally manufactured using pigment ink ? I just bought some black ink for filling pg-40s & pg-210s . "Inksell" said that the pigment type was the correct type. Were they wrong ?
Roger

 

[sathyakala]

They can be right as to the ink in the canon cartridges you have. Canon uses dye ink and pigment ink in their printers and hence you need to look for based on the cartridge numbers compatible for your printer. The link in Canon site http://shop.usa.canon.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10051_10051_172753_-1 says that 210 contains Pigment ink.

What our friends are saying is that, if the after market ink that you use to refill needs to be of very good quality (similar to canon) for the pigment ink not to clog (and you need to print quite regularly). Dye ink can be used in a cartridge meant for pigment but not the other way around.

Pigment ink is smudge and water resistant while dye ink can be washed away with water. However Pigment ink can clog and this can become a problem if the ink quality is not similar to canon.

Hope this helps.

 

[brady38]

Thank you for all your comments. I always use Hobbicolors ink for my Canon i9900 and Pro 9000 II, with absolutely zero problems. After researching, Hobbicolors sells the pigment ink for the 210 cartridge, so I will be using their ink. Once I find an aftermarket cartridge to refill, I will flush and refill with the dye black ink and give that a try, if for no reason than to see how it works out.

David

 

[stratman]

I have used both Hobbicolors and Image Specialists inks. Image Specialist inks more closely matches OEM Canon straight out of the bottle without a custom printer profile. I preferred Image Specialists Pigment Black, which I have always obtained from Mikling at Precision Colors, because it was more highlighter smear resistant than Hobbicolors, at least at that time.

I would like to try KMP Pigment Black, which everyone raves about, but the shipping charges from Europe are a bit too rich for my blood. Maybe the British Pound will take a dive one day, my American Dollar will rise, and I'll buy some from websnail's Octoinkjet web site for pennies on the dollar - or would that be pences on the pound?

BTW, you will not need to flush your cartridges if you make a switch in ink manufacturers, although you may want to if color accuracy is important immediately. Otherwise, eventually the Hobbicolors ink will become so dilute that it will no longer be a factor in a refill or two. However, you may want to flush your Pigment Black ink cartridge. A while back, forum member ghwellsjr did some rudimentary testing of Pigment Black inks and found Hobbicolors to possibly be more clog prone than others. You can read his postings here and decide for yourself. I did not flush when I changed over, and, even though I have eventually flushed Pigment Black cartridges on occassion, I have had no problem that I can relate directly to mixing of the inks. I assume you have not had clogs or problems since you did not mention it, otherwise I would recommend you definitely flush.

 

[brady38]

What is the best method to flush PG-210 Pigment Black cartridges ?

Thanks in advance

David