A CLI-8 and PGI-5 resetter sold in UK ???

[poussindemont]

Hi !
I have heard about a Canon CLI-8 / PGI-5 resetter that is said to be now available in UK, from the "thINKtank UK" company, in LN2 3JP - WELTON BY LINCOLN ...
Sadly, the e-mail address found in an american forum is wrong or now obsolete.
People among readers knowing more about the company and this device ?
Thanks in advance for any information (I am in France and I hope that purchasing from there will be possible ...).
Regards.
Chris

 

[billcf]

Link to their e-mail address

http://www.thinktankuk.com/

 

[poussindemont]

To billcf : thanks for your response. I have sent a message to the address shown on the web page (the only one ... since they are in reorganization !). Hope to obtain answers to my query (availability of the device, price, how it works etc...).
Good evening.
Chris

 

[canonfodder]

I did write to their email address: sales@thinktankuk.com and got a prompt reply. I was sent the 2 page instructions and an addendum which deals with the changes that Canon has made in printers made since sometime in 2007.

The email said:

"Hello,

Many thanks for your interest. We do indeed have a Canon resetter available. We have them ex-stock so if you would like to go ahead, please fax your card details to +44 1673 860844.

I am attaching the instructions for info.

Please let me know if you require any further info.

Kind regards

Dave Gilbert
sales@thinktankuk.com "

So I have files of the instructions and the addendum to the instructions. I don't know how to upload them as they are not pictures. One is a .pdf file and one is a Word .doc. I will forward them to anyone who wants to send me a private message, or perhaps someone can tell me how to get them on the forum.

 

[Manuchau]

cannonfodder.... You can take a screenshot and upload the images here as a jpg file. Alternatively, you could upload them to a file sharing site like Rapidshare, and post the link here. There is no cost to you for file storage.

 

[poussindemont]

Hi !

To people reading this thread : my opinion about this "resetter" is that it is too much expansive for home or even small office useage. It may interest institutions, with several offices and several printers ... or a person with a shop and the job of refilling cartridges ?
I fear that even if a "simple guy" as me accept to pay the price, the printer will be dead (3 - 4 .. years of service ?) and replaced with new model with new cartridge with new electronic device for stopping refilling actions !
Anyway, thanks to everybody who responded to my initial post.
Chris

 

[canonfodder]

poussindemont,

You are correct. This is not a price for personal use, and the longevity of its usefulness is limited by the fact that the OEM will continue to try to defeat the resetter with his newer models.

I reported for the interest of those on the forum who are in the business of refilling, who might be able to justify the cost.

I am seeking permission to post the instructions which I reported before. Grandad will help if it is permitted.

 

[Grandad35]

Was it a bad dream, or do I remember reading somewhere that the chipped carts are serialized and that each printer remembers the serial numbers of the carts that have been used in that printer? If true, that would mean that reset chips could be used in other printers, but not in any printer that previously emptied them. If true, a resetter would be of little value to an individual user. This wouldn't be a problem for a commercial refiller, since they randomly return refilled and reset carts to different customers.

Does anyone have experience where a cart was reset and returned to the same printer?

 

[headphonesman]

Was it a bad dream, or do I remember reading somewhere that the chipped carts are serialized and that each printer remembers the serial numbers of the carts that have been used in that printer?

Yes you are correct Grandad , at least thats the way the Cartridge World re-set carts are issued. They stick a label on each empty cart handed in for exchange giving the simple geographical location whence it came before sending it to their central location for re-setting . The new re-set cart they sell to you has a label saying where it came from (so that it is not offered for exchange at that location again , and it ends up with its number in the same machine which then remembers that it is supposed to be empty).

I think with the current latitude allowed for re-fill (but at the cost of loss of ink monitoring), seeking to re-set chips yourself or obtaining re-set , re-filled carts from independent ink suppliers.is expensive and unecessary.
These re-set carts are 50% -75% of the new (already overpriced) genuine carts , still way to expensive for medium to heavy users.

Should the goalposts move the wrong way , then a re-set machine may (then) have merit.

 

[canonfodder]

I asked the company thinktankuk.com for permission to publish the resetter information on this forum and received no answer.

I also have received no requests for sending the information privately to an individual.

I am in favor of forgetting the whole thing. Perhaps someday, a persistent person will come up with a complete solution to the chips on cartridges, such as new software for the printer. The final solution might even be through legislation.

Resetting can only help you a small amount.
Canon will continually work to defeat it.
The need to NOT use reset carts in the same printer is a large hurdle.
The cost of paying another to reset seems to be starting off too high.

In my opinion, the best refilling route for most people using Canon chipped cart printers is:

1. Refill the original Canon cartridges.
2. Use a known good ink.
3. Check the ink levels regularly by looking for yourself, especially when starting a large batch.
4. Watch for signs of plugging up and purge when that shows up.


1a. There are no reports of a "compatible" cartridge working better, and the high cost of the Canon cart will be spread over the many refills you can get from it.

2a. Ink consistency is best obtained by knowing who really made the ink. The good makers try hard to duplicate the ink for your printer, not make a universal ink. Your ink costs will be low even when you buy the better inks. Several brands have done well for forum members. Consider Formulabs, Hobbicolors, Image Specialists, & Inktek.

3a. Fortunately, Canon carts are transparent and don't mind being lifted out repeatedly for checking.

4a. Grandad35's respected purge method can be seen at http://www.nifty-stuff.com/docs/canon-BCI-6-cartridges.php