A basic guide (see post #1) to setting up ARGYLL CMS profiling on your computer

[Tcrow]

There's not supposed to be any difference in the two inst. With Argyll very little differance in how they operate. Hopefully I will figure it out if I do I'll post it here to help some one else. Thanks for trying.

 

[martin0reg]

There is a simple argyll GUI, for users of colormunki or spyder print, who don't want to struggle with DOS command lines. The small program is a early version, work in progress, but my first try was okay.
http://www.dslr-forum.de/showthread.php?t=1606257&page=3
(link in #61 - discussion and software in german)

Anyway I like the original colormunki software for their convenience regarding testcharts and scanning

 

[martin0reg]

The project is going on, here is beta version 0.3.4 of the first graphical user interface for printer profiling with argyll:
http://www.dslr-forum.de/showthread.php?p=13920776#post13920776
Download and try out, but note: this latest version does not open a DOS window anymore, you have to wait until the message "done" is there, calculating the profile (step 3) will take some time (with my old computer around 10 minutes)

 

[pharmacist]

Hi Martin,

Could you upload some print screen of this program, so we can have some impression of it ?

 

[martin0reg]

Hi pharmacist, it's a program for DOS-"dummies" like me, and I would like to know what you are thinking.

The program does not have to be installed, after unzipping there is only one exe file which you can start from anywhere. (just have noticed that the *.exe is not even zipped, only download and ececute)
Certainly you must have argyll running on your PC, also the argyll driver for the colormunki working.

After the GUI is opened up you have to choose a "Arbeitsverzeichnis" (working folder) where the files ti2, ti3, tif, icm, etc.. will be saved. And your device, which is probably colormunki, not spyderprint.

Step 1 will generate the target into the chosen folder.
After step 1, you have to add step 1b (not on the GUI): print out the generated target "Vorprofil.tif".

In step 2 you will do the measure, i.e. the strip reading of the printed target. There will appear a DOS window with argyll to control the reading.

At step 3 argyll will calculate the profile. Because this will run without a DOS window open, you have to wait, there is no display showing the status... it may take 10 minutes...

The first round makes a "vorprofil", with hook on "vorprofil erstellen" (= make pre-profile) at step 1.

Second round will use this vorprofil to produce the final "profil", so no hook on vorprofil, instead click the button "vorprofil wählen" (= choose pre-profile) at step 1.
Then printing and steps 2 - 3 will follow, similar to the first round, but generating and using files named "profil", not "vorprofil"

I attaches two screenshots, they are showing the GUI at first and second/final round, and the working folder with all files after profiling is finished:



There are some quality settings to choose in printerCAL, not many, and I have no idea what settings in argyll these would use or set. I only tried the default profiling with 210 patches on A4...

PS: the licence says:
"...software determined to the german speaking part of europe..."
but as far as I know in belgium there is a german speaking part, isn't there...?

 

[pharmacist]

Hi Martin thanks for the print screens. I can read and speak german reasonably well, unfortunately writing is horrible haha. Niederländisch is eine germanische Sprache sehr ähnlich wie Deutsch .

 

[martin0reg]

Alstublieft!

 

[Ambol]

Hi
I appreciate and followed your work with argyll. Made profiles with CAP480 and printerCAL. Matte Paper (Tecco PM230). Compared it with profile made with Colormunki Software and with a profil made by some professional service using xrite pro (512 targets). Comparing by using the testprint with the tasty looking strawberrys etc. CAP480 and printerCAL made quite similar profiles. Colormunki software and pro Profil are quite similar, too. But CM software profile has weaknesses at the orange sunset and is not so good in differing dark grey/black patches at the darker end.
What makes me hesitating using Argyll for other papers/profiles:
Argyll profiles and xrite profiles differ very much when looking at the strawberrys! The Argyll profils make somehow dump reds, slightly dull, yeollowish. Both xrite profiles produce punchy strawberrys, exactly how they look at my calibrated monitor.
I hoped I could use Colormunki and Argyll to make good profiles but this is disappointing.
Has anyone an idea how this could be explained?

 

[Ink stained Fingers]

profiling software can vary in their method how they create the tables for the perceptual rendering intent, that's an area with some variability for the software and a company secret. You may find some software to let you control that effect - varying the approach and compression of out of gamut colors. Some software allows different settings for the viewing conditions, and you may compare the profiles printing with the rel colorimetric rendering intent, here the differences should be less. And you may try to run a second patch set with Colormunki to enhance the original profile, selecting this image as the target from which ColorMunki can select the additional colors, or you just take a cropped image of the strawberry for this purpose.

 

[Emulator]

Hi
I appreciate and followed your work with argyll. Made profiles with CAP480 and printerCAL. Matte Paper (Tecco PM230). Compared it with profile made with
..............................
I hoped I could use Colormunki and Argyll to make good profiles but this is disappointing.
Has anyone an idea how this could be explained?

@Ambol, Take a look at page 8 of this thread, post #75

I think these represent the same images as you produced.