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No the SSD is not the boot drive and the system is resistant to change, I'll have to start reading the manual.:(
 

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Ah! that's better. I ran the Samsung Migration software again from the 1TB HD (where everything is initially stored) to the SSD. The system had evolved in the interim, so it seems that you have to periodically re-migrate to keep everything up to date.

The boot time has reduced to 39 seconds. This seems quite acceptable. :)
 

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That's an impressive improvement. :clap It seems an SSD really can speed up things. Could the need to re-migrate be caused by the SSD not being the C drive? But I'm no expert on these matters, so I think you should wait for comments before re-assigning drive letters, else you might end up having a system that will no longer boot or no longer have access to stored files.

How do I write "C colon backslash" without "colon backslash" turning into this smiley :\ ?
 
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That's an impressive improvement. :clap It seems an SSD really can speed up things. Could the need to re-migrate be caused by the SSD not being the C drive? But I'm no expert on these matters, so I think you should wait for comments before re-assigning drive letters, else you might end up having a system that will no longer boot or no longer have access to stored files.

How do I write "C colon backslash" without "colon backslash" turning into this smiley :\ ?

Yes, I raised this with Nifty, as a minor incompatibility, you just have to add a "space", Nifty has not responded.:\

During installation, I think it was the "computer" that decided which was the "C" drive, not me, then the Samsung software offered the setting up of the SSD and the migration of the operating system files to the SSD, which it split into drives E and F. These seem to be for the SSD operational files and the working files. The system left a second 1TB HD drive unnamed and unused, until I named it "B", where upon the system then labelled it as "B system reserve" and seems to be contemplating using it as a back up drive.

There is no doubt that the SSD improves processing speeds, I have seen comments that extremely large PS .tif image files can be processed in 1/10 the time. It shouldn't be difficult to evaluate for ourselves.
 

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I had the SSD installed for me as I am a user,not a techspert. They simply installed and set it up with Win 7 as my C drive, otherwise it was clean like a store bought new computer. I had to go through the painfully time consuming effort of reloading everything fresh. You may be thinking that was daft, BUT simply backing up and migrating back risks bringing any problems/faults/bugs with it and continuing the same process but quicker. Thats why I elected to go the long way around :hu

The Momentus (Hybrid) and the Raptors are still installed, connected and selectable. They have been cleaned out now and Hybrid (where I stored all Program files in the past) no longer has my programs I reloaded fresh updates one by (painful) one onto C drive. The raptor is as clean as it was as a fresh new spinner.

I download ALL photos to the Raptor (F drive) from Lightroom, also make a second copy to an external drive as backup number one. As Lightroom has only virtual images and now has the bonus of creating a smart previews, disconnecting externals is no longer an issue. Today I only PROCESS in C, for Lightroom that is irrelevant space wise but for PS processed images are 'save as' to F (the Raptor) and an external for backup.

I have noticed that when C goes to sleep (after 10min) any externals connected shut down and also have the message G system reserved! To get it active again I have to reboot which is a pain in the... ( someone out there will have a fix I am sure)

Hope this helps, :caf
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Interesting background Andrew, I think we are in a field of emerging technology. From the blurb SSDs do suffer from failures and each supplier is evolving system software to counteract and protect from the effects.

In my case, Samsung provides two packages "Samsung Magician" and "Data Migration". As far as I can gather they run the SSD in parallel with a hard disk C drive which continues to hold its own copy of all the software. The SSD operates at high speed on its own copies of the programs and data files, producing very fast results.

It also has a process which evens out the stress wear on the SSD by redistributing "use" over the entire memory area.

So if you have a failure you don't loose much data, only the work in hand. Just replace the SSD and re-migrate the files from C drive.
 

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Interesting background Andrew, I think we are in a field of emerging technology. From the blurb SSDs do suffer from failures and each supplier is evolving system software to counteract and protect from the effects.

In my case, Samsung provides two packages "Samsung Magician" and "Data Migration". As far as I can gather they run the SSD in parallel with a hard disk C drive which continues to hold its own copy of all the software. The SSD operates at high speed on its own copies of the programs and data files, producing very fast results.

It also has a process which evens out the stress wear on the SSD by redistributing "use" over the entire memory area.

So if you have a failure you don't loose much data, only the work in hand. Just replace the SSD and re-migrate the files from C drive.

I must say I am BLISSFULLY unaware of an 'bad press' for SSD's, so we boldly go! where no others have been:celebrate :weee:weee:he :hit :thumbsup

:popCheers,

Andrew:hide
 

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I have noticed that when C goes to sleep (after 10min) any externals connected shut down and also have the message G system reserved! To get it active again I have to reboot which is a pain in the... ( someone out there will have a fix I am sure)
Google is your friend. Unless you are working on a notebook or some other device in which you want to conserve battery power, then set your computer to never go to sleep. Instructions at http://www.pcworld.com/article/256309/tweeking_windows_7s_sleeping_habits.html.
 

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It also has a process which evens out the stress wear on the SSD by redistributing "use" over the entire memory area.
I think that would be "distributing". Trim or garbage collection is what allows the freeing up of previously deleted files to be wiped from that space thereby enabling data to once again be written to that space.

Redistribution is what we in America are experiencing economically.
 
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