Vinyl stic

[Adriatix]

Ps I also ought to add that the Pixma Pro 10s uses pigment not dye-based inks. Not sure if this would make a difference or not?

Only Pigment ink is not good enough. It should have some kind of polymer or resin besides pigment

 

[The Hat]

Only Pigment ink is not good enough. It should have some kind of polymer or resin besides pigment

@Adriatix, Nope, I don’t know where your coming from, but pigment ink is more than up to the job, now dye ink, that’s questionable...

 

[Adriatix]

@Adriatix, Nope, I don’t know where your coming from, but pigment ink is more than up to the job, now dye ink, that’s questionable...

Wrong. Pigment ink is not stretch resistant without resin on synthetic printable media. Have you ever heard about something called > Liquid Lamination for Car wrapping foils.

 

[The Hat]

@Adriatix, We could be here all day on this one, but no that’s incorrect again, I print on Papilio gloss vinyl labels and my pigment ink does not scratch or rub off, and it preforms the same on plain Matte surfaces also...

 

[Adriatix]

Have you tried to put that label in water Or on rain and in fridge ?

 

[Ink stained Fingers]

Liquid Lamination for Car wrapping foils.

I'm not sure that's the subject this thread started off with

 

[The Hat]

Have you tried to put that label in water Or on rain and in fridge ?

@Adriatix, It’s 100% waterproof, that’s why I use Papilio labels, but it does fade a little in sun light after 5 or 6 years, but so does most labels...

I'm not sure that's the subject this thread started off with

This often happens here...

 

[Adriatix]

@Adriatix, It’s 100% waterproof, that’s why I use Papilio labels, but it does fade a little in sun light after 5 or 6 years, but so does most labels...

This often happens here...

If you print on plain paper with pigment inks it still 100% water proof

But here we are talking about printing on vinyl. And you cant print on vinyl with Canon water based ink unless that vinyl is printable. Or it has some kind of coating that water based ink can dissolve. Or penetrate into it. Other wise you would not need that printable coating. But if this coating can be dissolved by ink. Or ink can penetrate in that coating than the water can do the same thing if you expose that label to some hash wet conditions. Therefore you need a liquid lamination to protect that printable coating. Then you are safe. Even with UV resin water based inks you need some kind of pretreatment or clear ink to prevent water base ink interbreeding.

 

[stratman]

And you cant print on vinyl with Canon water based ink unless that vinyl is printable.

The OP is using Pigment inks, not Dye-based inks.

The Hat said he has success with Pigment inks and Papilio gloss vinyl labels.

Have you had a poor experience with this ink-label combination?

 

[Adriatix]

Take a look at this image
It is printed at standard not inkjet printable Avery white vinyl + additional printable layer with polymer pigment ink on Canon iP1700.
It is 100% water proof but this surface is still soft and sensitive unless it is not liquid laminated. Same way as that is done on warping foil for vehicles

So this can be done. But only if it is done a proper way