Some success, but still have leakage from sponge (CLI-221). Why?

[joseph1949]

To: RMM
To: all

RMM, I am located in Oregon.

Update on refilling CLI-221 cart.

I have had success in refilling a cartno leakage. Most of the steps were similar to my post #1.

The following is what was different:

1. No warning light was on. Tank was empty of ink, though.
2. Filled ink tank to 2/3 full.
3. Turned cart so orange cap was up and at a 45 degree angle. The sponge opening was higher than the ink tank.
4. Kept the cart at the cap up/45 degree angle position for five minutes. Note: My thinking was that gravity would help me to keep the ink from the sponge opening.
5. Removed orange cap. No leakage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you.

 

[joseph1949]

To: mrelmo

Thank you for your reply.

I am using InkTec plugs. I have had no problem with the seal from the plugs.

Thank you.

 

[joseph1949]

To: all

I have successfully refilled another cart PGI-220BK (220PGBK)no leakage.

The following is what was different from my post #1 and #11:

1. Cart had a little bit of ink in the ink tank. No blinking warning light was on.
2. Filled cart to 3/4 full or a bit less.
3. Removed orange cap. No ink leakage from sponge.
4. Did NOT reset cart.
5. Place into print head. NO blinking light.

Upshot: It looks like if you remove the cart when there is no blinking light you do not need to reset the cart!!!!!! Also, I think it would be best to fill the ink tank to 2/3 full and no more. If you fill 3/4 or more there is nowhere for the ink to go when you turn the orange cap up and at a 45 degree angle. The ink will stay in the sponge and you may have some ink leakage when you remove the orange cap.

Thank you.

 

[stratman]

I have successfully refilled another cart (CLI-220PGBK)no leakage.

Are you sure that's the alphanumeric of the cartridge?

There is no escaping a cartridge eventually being marked "empty" by the printer unless you use a chip resetter.

What you may escape while waiting for a chip resetter in the mail is the printer recording the "empty" event and then performing an increased number of maintenance cycles as postulated by a member or two here on the forum. These "extra" maintenance cycles supposedly continue even after the chip has finally been reset. The printer remembers you overrode the "empty" message and continues to do the added cycles no matter what you do thereafter.

I don't know all the printer types this behavior is said to occur with, but IIRC it has been reported on printers using 220/221 cartridges. Others can post more precisely or you can search on the forum.


EDIT:

The other ways to prevent a cartridge from being marked as empty by the printer are to use ARC chips or stop using the cartridge (actually the chip on the cartridge) before it's marked empty. Otherwise, it is only a matter of when, not if.

Look forward to reading your experience.

 

[l_d_allan]

Way to go! Now both of us need to do some printing!

There was a funny line from a movie some years back ... "Heartbreak Kid".

Father: "Stay away from my daughter!"

Young man to father of his adored: "I'm a very determined person!"

Father: "Young man, I have determination for breakfast!"

 

[joseph1949]

To: stratman

The correct name for the cart is: PGI-220BK (220PGBK)

Only time will tell when I get a blinking warning light. When I get a blinking light I will let people know.

Thank you.

 

[pebe]

Joseph, I think your problem is because you are only part-filling the cart.

When you have refilled, ink will drain into the sponge until the difference in air pressure above and below the ink in the tank is sufficient to hold the weight of the column of ink. The pressure above the ink drops more quickly when there is very little air so less ink drains out.

The answer is to fill the tank to its maximum capacity leaving minimum air. In addition to covering the outlet port, you should also cover the top vent during filling, or else ink will soak into the sponge as you are filling.

With the German method, I had trouble with the refill hole leaking and difficulty getting the needle in position on one cart, so I have now changed back to the plug method, but by drilling a hole in the bottom of the tank, rather than the top. That way, I don't have to cap exit or vent ports.

 

[The Hat]

joseph1949 wrote: I have successfully refilled another cart (CLI-220PGBK)no leakage.

Your success will be short lived not resetting the chip on your cartridge.
I tried that with the CLI8s and after two and a half fills the chip had to be reset, as stratman Said: - it is only a matter of when, not if.

pebe The answer is to fill the tank to its maximum capacity leaving minimum air. In addition to covering the outlet port, you should also cover the top vent during filling, or else ink will soak into the sponge as you are filling.

I have my doughs about that, not leaving sufficient air in the reservoir a cartridge has a greater chance of dribbling
all over the place due to sponge saturation when the orange shoe is removed from the outlet hole.

The tendency in the past was always to put a much ink into the cartridge as possible and then reseal.
We now know that was the wrong thing to do as it nearly always ended up with unnecessary spillages.
That was one of the biggest reasons why a lot of guys looked for an alternative way to refill ( German "Durchstich)..

 

[pebe]

The Hat "The tendency in the past was always to put a much ink into the cartridge as possible and then reseal.
We now know that was the wrong thing to do as it nearly always ended up with unnecessary spillages".

Possibly because you did not cover the top vent and the sponge saturated during filling?

 

[The Hat]

pebe Possibly because you did not cover the top vent and the sponge saturated during filling?

Apologies for omitting to mention that I did cover the top vent with tape; the end result will still be the same.
Try half or even three quarter filling youll get a much better result and no mess..