Print Quality - Multifunctional Ink Tank.

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Good morning I am writing to consult the Printer Master. How are the Brother DCP T510 multifunctional in Photo Quality and Black Text Quality in Copies and Prints? Since the DCP T510 model uses DYE ink (in all four CMYK colors). There is almost no talk about Brother Photo Quality in the Forums, I have only seen a test where they compare the quality of a Brother. https://youtu.be/xr98XLzwSMg although there is no way to consult those who have real experience testing printers. Among the multifunctional Similar Range of the following brands I would like to know which delivers the best photographic quality (sharpness and color) as well as the best quality of black text. For example comparing the Canon Pixma G3110 vs the EPSON L4150 vs the Brother DCP T510W.

As a second question I would like to ask, if EPSON WorkForce with durabrite pigmented inks, can print good quality photos on photo paper.

I discarded the HP because I had a bad experience with an officejet Pro that left the factory defective with a "print heads error message" and they didn't want it changed to a new one.

EPSON L4150
Maximum Print Resolution: 5760 x 1440
copy resolution 720x720 dpi Not all models specify it.

BROTHER DCP-T510
Maximum Print Resolution: 6000 x 1200 dpi
copy resolution: until 1200 x 2400 dpi

CANON PIXMA G3100
Maximum Print Resolution: Color: until 4800 x 1200 dpi - Black: until 600x600 dpi

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Are you planning to buy a new printer ? With emphasis on photo printing ?
Forget all those numbers above, they don't tell you much about the actual print quality, one important parameter would be missing there - the droplet size is relevant as well.
You may have a look to this thread discussing actual print resolutions
www.printerknowledge.com/threads/effective-print-output-resolution.10964/#post-91964

Brother printers have a smaller market share so they are discussed less frequently.
The L805 would be one of the recommendable Epson photo printers - together with the XP55 if your volume is lower. I'm less familiar with Canon printers, but be aware that the Canon 4 ink printer models use a pigment ink and CMY dye inks, this implies that the black is just mixed from the color inks for photo printing on glossy papers . The Canon 5 color printers have both - a pigment black for text print and a dye black for photo printing.
 

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Thank you for your response, I will take your recommendations into account, although I had not considered a multifunctional 6 ink tank (because I do not know if the black color they handle is pigmented or photographic) I require pigmented text) But I saw that EPSON has for sale the Expression Premium ET-7700 EcoTank of 5 inks (pigmented black and CMYK dye). I took your suggestion into account and looked for the drop size data. That seem to influence beyond resolutions that the printers handle. Comparing Canon, Epson and Brother. Although it would be good to see photos printed by the 3 multifunctional. I think it's a difficult decision on which to buy, but I finally believe the solution is between Canon MG5610 5-ink (Outlet Offer) and Epson Expression Premium ET-7700 EcoTank 5-ink. I have the doubt if an EPSON Work Force with 4 Pigmented inks can print good photos although the drop size is 3 to 3.7 Picoliters. Unless they don't look pixelated or grainy. For the advantage of durability and resistance to the passage of time of pigmented inks. It seems like a dream, I wish there was an Epson Ecotank or Canon Megatank with a fine drop size (1.5 picoliters) and using pigmented inks in all colors.

Brother Print Head Nozzles
Black DCP-T510W Piezo with 210 nozzles x 1
Colour DCP-T310/DCP-T510W Piezo with 70 nozzles x 3
Colour DCP-T710W/MFC-T910DW - Piezo with 210 nozzles x 3
Ink Palette: Pigment Black, Cyan, Magenta and Yellow
Minimum Ink Droplet Size All models T Series: BK 3 picoliters and CMY 1.5 picoliters
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EPSON Expression Premium ET-7700 EcoTank All-in-One
Ink Palette: Pigment Black, Cyan, Magenta, Yellow and Photo Black.
Minimum Ink Droplet Size: 3 droplet sizes, as small as 1.5 picoliters
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Canon Pixma G 3110
Number of Nozzles
Colour: 1152 + Pigment Black: 320 = Total: 1,472
Minimum Ink Droplet Size: Color: 2 Picoliters
Ink Palette: Pigment Black, Cyan, Magenta and Yellow
Canon MG5610 Outlet
Number of Nozzles: Color: 3072 + Pigment Black 1024 = total: 4096
droplet sizes: 2 picoliters(color) and 5picoliters(black)
Ink Palette: Pigment Black, Cyan, Magenta, Yellow and Photo Black.
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When buying the new multifunctional. Another difficult issue to decide on will be the purchase of alternative inks. I tried the inktec made in Korea, the result seems to be good. Although I have read in forums that also recommend American Inkjet made in the USA (https://www.iimak.com/Products/IIMAK-Inks/Desktop-Inks) and OCP made in Germany (https://home.ocp.de/ ). I wish I could know which is the best of the alternative ink options.

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Please be aware that Epson is running pigment inks with several different formulas , the Durabrite inks are targeted for printing office documents - on matte papers, they print o.k. for photos but not more, they are not tuned for use on glossy papers, you have the tpyical effects with pigment inks - bronzing, gloss differences between colors and printed and unprinted areas, that's all effects which are not related to print resolution, drop size etc. Pigment inks generally show a more critical behaviour in this respect - not all inks - refill - look very good on all types of 3rd party papers. Photo printing with pigment inks is best done with printers like the Epson P400/600 or Canon Pro 10s, and with genuine papers and inks. And if you change those to 3rd party products you need to test which combinations fit best your expectations. Dye inks either don't show such effects on glossy papers at all or at a much lower, almost invisible level.
If longevity is a major concern for you with dye inks you should forget 3rd party inks, Inktec prints don't last long, other suppliers may be better or worse but don't reach the performance of the genuine Epson Claria (and 106) or Canon Chromalife inks. And be aware the the Canon inks in the G-series printer models are not Chromalife inks, but less performing inks in respect to fading.
When you count nozzles you should know that Canon printers use a dedicated nozzle row for every droplet size, so you may have 2 or 3 rows for the same color, Epson printers can eject different droplet sizes with the same piezo nozzle elements.
I'm not aware of a Canon printer with ink tanks and 5 inks like the Epson ET7700/7750. There is a lesser known difference between these two models - yes, the 7750 supports the A3 format, the 7700 does not, but the 7700 only takes single sheets via the rear paper bin , but you can load about 10 sheets into the rear bin of the 7750 which makes a handling difference if you print more than one image at a time.
 
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Thank you very much for your advice and tips. Now I have a clearer idea about printers and I learned that there are more important aspects that go beyond print resolution. I think for the offer price. I will buy the Canon MG5610 Outlet of 5 inks, since it is very cheap. If the quality of the Canon disappoints me. I will have savings available to bet on EPSON. ET-7700. In both cases I will have black pigmented text and 4 dye colors for photos. They say that piezoelectric printhead like the EPSON print lasts longer. A comparison of the printhead bubble jet or canon thermal injection. But I think that the important thing in both is to maintain it, if they get to clog the heads, take them to disassemble with a specialist and uncover them with printheads cleaning liquid. In any case, a technician has told me that the printhead of the Canon MG5610 is easily removable, and that will make it easier to clean it, or replace it with a new one when necessary. Best regards.
 

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I think that's a good and qualified choice; there is a simple measure to keep an inkjet printer in good working condition - just print regularly - even if you think you wouldn't need to - you don't need to print much but it's better and simpler to print something - e.g. from the internet so you wouldn't get into the situation to start intensive cleaning cycles, washing, soaking whatever else in the frist place. And you would get help here in case of a problem. Canon or Epson with their different print methods have their own typical failure modes, but that's not subject of this thread at this time.
 
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