Optimizing ink costs for Canon Pixima Pro 100

[Tin Ho]

Forgot to mention, Epson wide format printers such as R3000, R3880, etc all have 3rd party refillable cartridges to choose from. You will not have issues with resetting chips.

 

[mikling]

I never liked Epson printers before. Some people probably remember how I criticize how slow Epson was. That was based on my limited experience with low end Epson R200/300 dye based printers and one C series durabright ink printer. However, once I had a full year of printing with an Epson R2880 in a photography club I changed my perception about Epson completely..

I wonder over the years how many people had been swayed the wrong direction because of your comments . I am still using an R200 on a daily basis and it is still a very good printer. The big brother to the R200, the 2100/2200 are still being used to win photo contests as one of my customers had informed me of his success. With the suitable papers, he is getting glossy output comparable to the wet process, something he thought he'd never achieve. Many of the current durabrite (durabright) printers are turning out to be popular work printers as well.

I am 95% there for a suitable inkset for the Pro-100 including the Gray and Light Gray inks. Practically all the colors are new or did not exist before and there is very little carryover from the CLI-8 (Pro9000) generation. So there will be no gotcha's with the Pro-100 if you know where to look. The only issue we hope that will be solved over time is the resetter. I am currently using the CLI-8 bodies for testing in my Pro-100, I simply transfer the chips. That way I have an abundance of cartridges for use with each trial run and test.

There are still applications for both dye and pigment ink printers. They do not replace each other. If anything, the features of the Pro-100 is going to lay down a firmer reason why dye ink printers still have a strong future.

 

[peter D]

I'm a Canon Pro 100 owner and resident in NZ and new to the business of cartridge refilling using chipped cartridges.
I really like what the printer is capable of for both colour and monochrome printing.
The Canon service department here in New Zealand tell me that only Canon cartridges purchased for use in New Zealand and Australia are compatible with Pro 100 printers purchased in New Zealand and Australia.
Please can anyone advise whether this advice is accurate.
When asked about compatibility of their cartridges, a supplier of OEM cartridges in the USA advised me to contact the local Canon Service centre and this is the reply that I received.

I note that chip re setters for the Pro 100 are not advertised anywhere that I have looked on the web including eBay and Alibaba and that the suppliers bulk ink offered do not offer resettable cartridges of any type to go with it.
Marrutt in the UK have been talking about supplying replacement ink for the Pro 100 (possibly Lyson) but have since November 2012 gone quiet on the issue.

Does anyone have any idea why there is a dearth of availability of refilling systems for this printer apart from the relative newness of the model?

Running a cartridge to empty so hat the ink monitoring system can be disabled to allow refilled OEM cartridges to be fitted sounds risky to a novice like me given that the print head is a thermal type. Does the printer just automatically stop working once a cartridge is completely empty? Any further advice on the risks involved would be appreciated

 

[jtoolman]

Only Precision Colors is working on a possible ink set for it. There is still no method to reset the cart chips. You will have to turn off ink monitoring as each individual color reaches empty and the printer stops printing.
Maybe with the sudden popularity of this printer due to the amazing rebates being offered, someone in China will bust the code and provide a proper resetting option.

 

[crenedecotret]

I just found something interesting today.... there is a company on alibaba selling "single use chips" for CLI-42. They also sell the full inkset with grays, but i'm not sure I would trust ink from China...
If the chinese are now able to make one-use chips maybe ARC or resetters are around the corner!

 

[jtoolman]

Yes they will work. However I would wait for a US based Ink set such as from Image Specialists.
We will wait for Precision Colors or someone else here in North America to put together a proven ink set. Then you should be able to use those single use chips.
By the way the minimum is 10 sets.
I purchased auto reset chips for the 10 ink PRO 9500 MKII PGI-9 carts and they went from about a couple of bucks a chip. So if someone wants to ask for a price quote fell free.

I foresee, this printer making its way to local Craigslisters very soon for real bargain prices. This is the type of printer that one could get a couple of them for cheap.

Joe

 

[mikling]

I definitely will have something by this weekend. I could throw something out. I am trying to knock this one out of the park as I am determined to get the monochrome aspect working as well.

I don't know if anyone has figured out the big issue, it is this. We know dye inks are much more sensitive to papers as compared to pigment. The challenge is to get a decent B&W given this sensitivity. The ability to emulate the Epson B&W driver with dye ink in my mind was a big step with this printer.

Even if this is compromised the Pro-100 looks to be a good successor to the 9000 and will likely prove very popular.

 

[peter D]

In respect of my previous post regarding compatibility of Canon cartridge types for their printers sold in different countries. The update I have from Canon service department in New Zealand is that the cartridge must have the same type number as that fitted to your printer to be compatible and that in some cases the cartridge ID numbers vary for a given printer depending on which country it is sold in. In essence then the same model of printer sold in Japan may have a different cartridge number to those sold in the USA. This seems to make more sense than their previous statement. They concede that the CLI42 cartridge is sold for the Pro-100 in both the USA and Australasia.

 

[mikling]

Once the numbers are the same, the chip is the same. If it were not like this, then

Now can you imagine this scenario. Someone grey markets a cartridge with the same numbers but they don't work. A large number of them get sold....now wait for the phone lines at Canon and what could Canon do? Replace all the cartridges because they are "defective". I think the corporate guys thought this through and imagined a worse case scenario. Nobody and corporation would do this.

Now what can happen is that the same MODEL number of the printer is sold in different reqions BUT the cartridge number would be different. That is valid, because there is a sticker on the printer clearly identifying what model of cartridge is to be used. Epson does this.

 

[The Hat]

Now I will go and confuse the hell out of Peter by saying that the CLI-8 cartridge with a chip change will also work in the Pro 100.

My converted iP4700 uses a CLI-42 yellow cartridge at this moment.
But the printer doesnt know that..