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Hmm, I wonder hoow many month we have to wait for a resetter? And also when will germans have ink for them, the same question goes for PGI-9.
They have resetter for PGI-9 but no ink. And I can't justify buying from the USA, sorry.
 

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Smile said:
Hmm, I wonder hoow many month we have to wait for a resetter? And also when will germans have ink for them, the same question goes for PGI-9.
They have resetter for PGI-9 but no ink. And I can't justify buying from the USA, sorry.
The resetter for the Pro 100 will come in time, these printers are getting more popular by the day
so there is real money to be made by getting the resetter out quickly,
but it does take time to crack the codes and do proper testing before general release.

If you run the Pro 100 printer and you have two sets of OEM cartridges (Essential for refilling)
you only have to disable the ink monitoring on a single individual ink cartridge as it become empty,
which should take many months so be patient the resetter will come.

However the PGI-9 cartridge printers are very well catered for with very good I.S inks which are sold both here in the EU and in the US,
but alas the Pro 10 is not so lucky, you will have to make do with using the 9500 ink set for the foreseeable future. (Profiling essential)

Because of the poor outlook on world economies both I.S. and OCP ink manufacturers are reluctant
to pour money into R&R that wont bear fruit for quite some time, so can you blame them..:(
 

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but it does take time to crack the codes and do proper testing before general release.
I don't think they crack the code at all, the chips have 4 pins like CLI-8 then thats simple interface of power (2 pins) and data (2pins) the delay for resetter could be because they must make "a one chip, cheap to manufacture resetter"

If somebody has a programmer and some knowledge they can reprogramm a chip easily without waiting for resetter, sorry those are words from a friend of mine who specializes in commercial programming of various chips. And he's not into printers, printing or etc. So I can't get him involved into this without some $


However the PGI-9 cartridge printers are very well catered for with very good I.S inks which are sold both here in the EU
Could you give some pointers, write PM if you would not like to advertise the seller. Thanks.
 

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If it was that easy then could you please tell why your friend with his programming ability
wouldnt jump at the chance of making hundreds if not thousands of from this smashing little venture.

There is a lot more to this silly little chip than meets the eye, I dont know the level of encryption that these things have,
but if I did then Id be the one selling the resetter.

As I said there are two good ink suppliers who sell the I.S. ink for the PGI-9 cartridges
and its not strictly advertising as such because without these guys we would all be using OEM inks.

Now you have a choice of where you would like to get them from..

http://www.precisioncolors.com/C10A.html
http://www.octoink.co.uk/categories/Bulk-Ink/Canon-Compatible/PGI%2d9/

Happy refilling..:)
 

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The Hat said:
Smile said:
Hmm, I wonder hoow many month we have to wait for a resetter? And also when will germans have ink for them, the same question goes for PGI-9.
They have resetter for PGI-9 but no ink. And I can't justify buying from the USA, sorry.
The resetter for the Pro 100 will come in time, these printers are getting more popular by the day
so there is real money to be made by getting the resetter out quickly,
but it does take time to crack the codes and do proper testing before general release.

If you run the Pro 100 printer and you have two sets of OEM cartridges (Essential for refilling)
you only have to disable the ink monitoring on a single individual ink cartridge as it become empty,
which should take many months so be patient the resetter will come.
Hi Mr Hat,

Could you elaborate on the workflow that one would use to only disable ink monitoring on one cartridge. I have a Pro-100 with the first set of cartridges nearing empty. With no re-setter in sight I was under the impression that I had to disable each ink colour monitoring as the cartridge became empty.

Make it simple. I am that type of guy.

Thanks.

Roy Sletcher
 

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Hi Roy
Yes your are correct you must disable each cartridge in turn till all 8 are showing the red X,
thats what I was try to say in my previous post but it got away from me, sorry.

The idea I was trying to put forwards was by the time you get through disabling all 16 cartridges on your printer
that a resetter should just about be ready to hit the market, baring problems with the encoding.
Its coming and so is Christmas.. :celebrate
 

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Hi Joe, many thanks for the information, you've set my mind at rest. Manufacturers do get funny about modifications don't they. I once asked a VW main dealer to fit a VW alarm to be fitted to my Seat Ibiza car. VW weren't having any of it - in fact they were quite rude about the request. Fortunately for me I have a second set of genuine cartridges which were part of the deal I got when buying my Pro-100. I think I'll keep them in reserve.

jtoolman said:
Not really. The Hat oppened up the Pro-1 in an attempt to locate the waste tubes and re route them externally. Upon reassembling everything he got an error he could not reset. SO off the service place it went.
The techs there obviously saw what had been done and they reset it but probably updated something so now he cannont enter service mode using the previous method.
You chould be fine refilling your carts. But you do know that you will have to disable your ink monitoring for each individual colors that goes empty. Everything you will need including full instructions and all details can be found in mikling's precision colors website.
If you ever want to bring back ink monitoring you will have to reinsert a brand new OEM cart / carts.

Joe
 

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This is just an update and sage on the Pro 1s ink monitoring

Here is the new look ink monitoring on my Pro 1 since I got the unwanted firmware upgrade.

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(1) They have added a new blue ? Symbol in the on screen ink levels now.

(2) It detects a new replaced empty cartridge from where there was a full one before.

(3) A new warning about liability and the use of refilled cartridges added.

(4) The usual 5 second button thing and now no cleaning on that colour any more !

As I will be using the all new Chinese ARC chips soon this should get me away
from all these annoying pop ups that keep appearing each time a cartridges has been disabled.

I will soon be able to use the printer far more once the ink monitoring is back working
and fooling the system into thinking that all the cartridges are full and functioning properly..
 

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Re item (4): It looks to me as if the print head has two banks of 6 cartridges each, so I guess you have the possibility to clean right or left bank or both, from the maintenance tab? If so I cannot see how one cartridge can be excluded from cleaning. I think the warning about the yellow cartridge being excluded from cleaning is not true and a part of a scare tactic.
 

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PeterBJ said:
Re item (4): It looks to me as if the print head has two banks of 6 cartridges each, so I guess you have the possibility to clean right or left bank or both, from the maintenance tab? If so I cannot see how one cartridge can be excluded from cleaning. I think the warning about the yellow cartridge being excluded from cleaning is not true and a part of a scare tactic.
I totally agree that its impossible to segregate out just one colour without affecting the other four;
there are 3 separate banks on this printer.

The reason why I posted these pictures of the new firmware or should I say strong arm ware tactics
is to highlight the extent that Canon are willing to go to stop owners disabling their ink monitoring or using refill inks,
all three warnings mention releasing the cleaning of individual colours..
 
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