KMP Ink : Success - Now a question

[websnail]

Ok... after a lot of repeated attempts at communication I've managed to locate a contact (and no you can't have it ) and get information on how to order...

The only "problem" is that there is now a choice of pigment inks...

There are apparently two different types of KMP pigment ink:
- A universal version that is suitable for Canon inkjets that use black pigment ink
OR
- A specific blend for the PGI-5BK cartridge

Difference in price is around the 70% mark with the latter being more expensive...

I'll be querying if there are similar blends for the later PGI-220BK printers as well and will post up when I get any information back but my question is this...

Which would you KMP enthusiasts want to buy and was anyone aware of this distinction before now? If you were, which version do you think/know you've been using?


Thanks in advance... With a little luck I'll have this in stock over the coming weeks... (obviously dependent on input here)

 

[ghwellsjr]

This is great. Is it too early to ask what would be the prices for a liter bottle and shipping to the US?

 

[websnail]

This is great. Is it too early to ask what would be the prices for a liter bottle and shipping to the US?

Just a bit...

I still need to get information on shipping, tax, etc...

You've obviously missed the question about which of the options available to go for so if you could go back to the first post and read again that'd be great

 

[pharmacist]

Hi Websnail: actually my experiences are with the cheaper KMP version (universal one fit for BCI-3eBK/PGI-5BK/PGI-220/520) and I am still impressed by the results of it: razorsharp texts, no clogging of cartridges even after several consecutive refills (note: flushing is still necessary, but you will probably need less flushing than normal pigment inks) and very good highlighter resistant.

 

[ghwellsjr]

You've obviously missed the question about which of the options available to go for so if you could go back to the first post and read again that'd be great

Actually, I didn't miss the question, I just didn't know how to answer it. All I know about the KMP ink is what Pharmacist has posted about it and if he says the cheaper ink is what he has used, that's good enough for me.

 

[websnail]

Fair enough...

I've asked if KMP can send me a smaller amount of the specialist stuff along with the generic so if they'll roll with that I might send out a small sample to a couple of you (when you place your order for a few dozen litres ) to test out and compare..

 

[The Hat]

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There are apparently two different types of KMP pigment ink:
- A universal version that is suitable for Canon inkjets that use black pigment ink
OR
- A specific blend for the PGI-5BK cartridge

Difference in price is around the 70% mark with the latter being more expensive...

I was holding off buying your pigment black because I have litres of black already, but I might get a bottle of yours now that you have sparked my interest with your latest thread, and later get the new stuff when it comes available to test the differences. I am always on the lookout for better quality pigment black..

 

[ghwellsjr]

My concern about the different kinds of pigment black ink is not how well they print, or their fastness to water or highlighters, but rather whether they will clog the waste ink absorber pads. This was the downfall of the Inktec BCI-3eBk ink. I provide refilled cartridges to about ten MP780 and MP760 printers and every one of them developed clogs in the purge systems (except mine because I flooded it with Windex, but it overflowed the waste system as a result). I plan on developing an accelerated test to find out how these different inks are absorbed in the waste pads but this may take many months. It may turn out that the KMP universal ink clogs the waste pads but the special one does not.

Pharmacist reported that the Germans had discovered that Inktec pigment ink had clogging problems, although they didn't specify where the clogs appeared, and that KMP was the preferred ink in Europe and presumably doesn't have the same clogging problem but I want to test to find out for sure.

Here's my problem. I need some Inktec BCI-3eBk pigment ink in order to develop a valid comparison test. It was very difficult to buy this ink in the USA and now Inktec has taken it off the market. I sent my last two bottles (1 liter each) to my sister who is a missionary in the jungles of Africa. She has promised to try to send them back to me but it is a daunting problem for her because she has to drive over dirt roads and across alligator infested rivers for many miles to get to a post office. So my testing may take some time.

 

[leo8088]

Canon OEM ink in BCI-3ebk has a tendency to clog the sponge when dried up. Maybe Inktec's old BCI-3ebk ink was similar to Canon OEM ink in the ingredients. I noticed that about half of the used BCI-3ebk I got had to be purged the first time I try to refill them. But for every PGI-5 there has never been a need to purge before refilling. There must be a difference in the OEM ink between BCI-3ebk and PGI-5. My recent year or two of using Hobbicolors PMT-BK ink has been no such problems either. I do not purge my OEM BCI-3ebk and PGI-5 cartridges no matter how many refills they have gone through. They seem all work just fine with PMT-BK. This may be telling that it is a newer generation of black pigment ink?

 

[stratman]

Here's my problem. I need some Inktec BCI-3eBk pigment ink in order to develop a valid comparison test. It was very difficult to buy this ink in the USA and now Inktec has taken it off the market. I sent my last two bottles (1 liter each) to my sister who is a missionary in the jungles of Africa. She has promised to try to send them back to me but it is a daunting problem for her because she has to drive over dirt roads and across alligator infested rivers for many miles to get to a post office. So my testing may take some time.

You sent ink that is known to clog printers to your sister who is a missionary in the jungles of africa where she must drive over dirt roads and across alligator infested rivers for many miles to get to a post office?

Wouldn't want to be someone you don't like.