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Delta-E - Now, aren't you sorry that you asked?turbguy said:
Image Specialists 10 year old formulation
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Excellent Grandad35Grandad35 said:
That answer should tie up turbguy with a bit of light reading for some time..
I successfully refilled the 226 cartridges using the German method for the first time today. I used IS ink from Precision Colors. I difference in print quality is quite obvious when comparing side by side with G&G ink I was using. I have never seen skin tones come out as good as I am getting with IS ink. The G&G ink was giving me a yellowish cast over all my prints. I am a believer now that Precision ink is as good as Canon OEM ink, dare I say even slightly better! I am using it with MG6120 now but as soon as out of my 221/220 supply of G&G ink, I am going to switch to IS ink for my ip4700 as well. Well done Mikling, well done ! 
All are perfect except that your black suit is printed grey. Isn't this a problem that you are complaining in another post? Whatever the root cause of your problem is your statement in here is very confusing and very inconsistent between this post and the complaint in the other post. If Image Specialists ink is so good why are you reporting an issue there? Did G&G ink print black OK while it gives you a yellowish cast? It seems you don't have true knowledge of the problems yet but you are making a conclusion already.dvdit said:I successfully refilled the 226 cartridges using the German method for the first time today. I used IS ink from Precision Colors. I difference in print quality is quite obvious when comparing side by side with G&G ink I was using. I have never seen skin tones come out as good as I am getting with IS ink. The G&G ink was giving me a yellowish cast over all my prints. I am a believer now that Precision ink is as good as Canon OEM ink, dare I say even slightly better! I am using it with MG6120 now but as soon as out of my 221/220 supply of G&G ink, I am going to switch to IS ink for my ip4700 as well. Well done Mikling, well done !
I like the words jtoolman posted in one of his posts. He said something like he would be very careful to praise or bash any 3rd party products in a forum. That's really one best advice in my opinion. Careless praise or bash mislead people easily causing wide false speculations.
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This thread is full of careless bashing.....and poorly shrouded antagonism.....
Unless you follow the thread closely and read every post, you wouldn't get the whole picture. And the black suit being printed grey, well I still have that problem with some photos stored in my hard drive. But if I download and print a photo with blacks from the web, then the backs come out as black. Still unable to explain this but it is not the ink, otherwise every black will be printed grey. Canon's explanation, if it makes sense to you as it doesn't to me, is that the software sees that incoming color as grey, so it instructs the printer to print grey rather than black. When I ask them why the problem can't be repeated when I print photos downloaded from their website, the answer is "we don't know". It sure is a mystery.Tin Ho said:All are perfect except that your black suit is printed grey. Isn't this a problem that you are complaining in another post? Whatever the root cause of your problem is your statement in here is very confusing and very inconsistent between this post and the complaint in the other post. If Image Specialists ink is so good why are you reporting an issue there? Did G&G ink print black OK while it gives you a yellowish cast? It seems you don't have true knowledge of the problems yet but you are making a conclusion already.dvdit said:I successfully refilled the 226 cartridges using the German method for the first time today. I used IS ink from Precision Colors. I difference in print quality is quite obvious when comparing side by side with G&G ink I was using. I have never seen skin tones come out as good as I am getting with IS ink. The G&G ink was giving me a yellowish cast over all my prints. I am a believer now that Precision ink is as good as Canon OEM ink, dare I say even slightly better! I am using it with MG6120 now but as soon as out of my 221/220 supply of G&G ink, I am going to switch to IS ink for my ip4700 as well. Well done Mikling, well done !
I like the words jtoolman posted in one of his posts. He said something like he would be very careful to praise or bash any 3rd party products in a forum. That's really one best advice in my opinion. Careless praise or bash mislead people easily causing wide false speculations.
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... and can I please just add one small nugget to this conversation, having missed the bulk of it.
Canon printers (like all products the world over) are marketed by folks who look for new and interesting ways of getting people to buy the latest product.
To do this they use lots of buzz words that assume new is better, shiny is newer and change is good... You only have to look at the build quality of many of the printers out there now to realise there are falicies to this but people will always buy on the basis that something is new.
The point about HP photosmart printers using what appear to be older IS inks that also appear in older Canon models is relatively easy to explain.. HP have licensed older Canon technology, print engines and presumably inks and branded it with HP bloatware, casing, etc... So inks like the IS Photo black 1008 was compatible with the BCI-6BK AND the 364 photo black... Doesn't make it any worse or better just suitable for both printers..
As for the 244/2032 mix-up... 244 Cyan is recommended by IS as compatible for the 221C/521C carts while IS recommended the 2032 for the 8C/226C/526C ... There's some debate as to suitability (see other topics) but again there's often a case for "If it ain't broke... Don't fix it"
On to the next topic...
Canon printers (like all products the world over) are marketed by folks who look for new and interesting ways of getting people to buy the latest product.
To do this they use lots of buzz words that assume new is better, shiny is newer and change is good... You only have to look at the build quality of many of the printers out there now to realise there are falicies to this but people will always buy on the basis that something is new.
The point about HP photosmart printers using what appear to be older IS inks that also appear in older Canon models is relatively easy to explain.. HP have licensed older Canon technology, print engines and presumably inks and branded it with HP bloatware, casing, etc... So inks like the IS Photo black 1008 was compatible with the BCI-6BK AND the 364 photo black... Doesn't make it any worse or better just suitable for both printers..
As for the 244/2032 mix-up... 244 Cyan is recommended by IS as compatible for the 221C/521C carts while IS recommended the 2032 for the 8C/226C/526C ... There's some debate as to suitability (see other topics) but again there's often a case for "If it ain't broke... Don't fix it"
On to the next topic...
