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we are discussing since quite a long time possible alternatives to the Claria inks, alternative inks which have a comparable fading performance as the genuine Epson inks.
Claria inks are only available in small cartridges - e.g. T080x for the R265 printer with about 10ml of ink, there are no other printers - A3 or else using those inks in somewhat larger cartridges.
I'm using the current sales pricing of about 10€/cartridge (for 10ml) as a reference for this discussion, this makes 1000€/litre - a pricing similar to better perfumes...
Epson and Fujifilm are selling a series of professional printers in their Surelab/Drylab product line, photo printers for photo shops, instant photo prints, printing on roll paper(s). These printers use bigger cartridges starting from 200ml to 700ml which can be tapped and the ink used for refill.
These inks have shown very good fading performance -Aardenburg testing and in several threads like here
https://www.printerknowledge.com/threads/which-pigment-ink-for-epson-1500w.9323/page-15#post-90597
, much better than most other refill inks on the market - at a price.
A 200ml Fujifilm Dl cartridge with 200ml is sold for 45€ which makes 225€/litre, already down to 25% of the Claria price which is a good deal.
Epson is selling ink cartridges as well for their Surelab printers - Ultrachrome D6 - starting at 200ml , their pricing is overall close to the Fujifilm pricing on a per litre base.
There are plenty offers on Ebay U.S. for discounted Fujifilm/Frontier cartridges with 500ml and beyond the expiration date. It's Dye inks, so settling of pigments etc should not be a problem, and those inks are still usable after expiration. There is no fixed pricing, it runs at 50%-70% of the regular prices, and I would have to pay quite some transportation charge and import taxes which may not make such offer a good deal for me in Europe at the end - and it's a set of 500ml cartridges which may just be too much ink for some users.
I have not seen discounted Epson Surelab cartridges yet.
There are a few companies offering other alternate inks for the Epson Claria or Fujifilm inks, Inkthrift CL by inkjetmall/Vemont ink
http://shop.inkjetmall.com/Shop-By-Ink/InkThrift-CL/InkThrift-CL-dye-ink-220ml-Lt-Magenta.html
$26.93 for 220ml makes 123$/litre, this ink had been tested as well and findings reported in the above thread, you would have to add transportation and sales tax, and you are limited to 220ml bottles which again may be too much as well for some users.
I tested another ink performing similarly - Solution CL by Falter in Poland,
https://inkjetsolution.eu/de_DE/p/SOLUTION-CL-CYAN/711
which is available as 70ml for 8.61€ or 250ml for 29,29€ which makes 123€/117€/litre which is very much preferable for European customers - no duty/tax and lower transport cost.
Looking to their offers of Solution CL cartridges - e.g. 500ml does not drop the cost any further, those
have a higher sales price https://inkjetsolution.eu/de_DE/p/S...FRONTIER-DRY-MINILAB-DL410-MAGENTA-500-ML/708
There is another company in Ireland selling these Solution CL cartridges at a slightly higher price
http://www.imagecreationsupplies.ie/solution-cl-ink-for-epson-sure-lab-d-700-black-200-ml
at 144€/litre (ex tax), and this company does not offer this same ink in smaller bottles like Falter does.
I currently have a Solution CL CMYK inkset on order at Falter, and I'll run the fading test again against the Fujifil, DL inks, it'll take a while, they fade pretty slowly, I'll report findings as they become available.
I haven't included other inks in this little wrap up like the recently tested InkOwl ink claiming 'UV resistance', it runs at $10.95 for 120ml or 91$/litre, the performance of this ink does not match the price to any degree.
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Claria inks are only available in small cartridges - e.g. T080x for the R265 printer with about 10ml of ink, there are no other printers - A3 or else using those inks in somewhat larger cartridges.
I'm using the current sales pricing of about 10€/cartridge (for 10ml) as a reference for this discussion, this makes 1000€/litre - a pricing similar to better perfumes...
Epson and Fujifilm are selling a series of professional printers in their Surelab/Drylab product line, photo printers for photo shops, instant photo prints, printing on roll paper(s). These printers use bigger cartridges starting from 200ml to 700ml which can be tapped and the ink used for refill.
These inks have shown very good fading performance -Aardenburg testing and in several threads like here
https://www.printerknowledge.com/threads/which-pigment-ink-for-epson-1500w.9323/page-15#post-90597
, much better than most other refill inks on the market - at a price.
A 200ml Fujifilm Dl cartridge with 200ml is sold for 45€ which makes 225€/litre, already down to 25% of the Claria price which is a good deal.
Epson is selling ink cartridges as well for their Surelab printers - Ultrachrome D6 - starting at 200ml , their pricing is overall close to the Fujifilm pricing on a per litre base.
There are plenty offers on Ebay U.S. for discounted Fujifilm/Frontier cartridges with 500ml and beyond the expiration date. It's Dye inks, so settling of pigments etc should not be a problem, and those inks are still usable after expiration. There is no fixed pricing, it runs at 50%-70% of the regular prices, and I would have to pay quite some transportation charge and import taxes which may not make such offer a good deal for me in Europe at the end - and it's a set of 500ml cartridges which may just be too much ink for some users.
I have not seen discounted Epson Surelab cartridges yet.
There are a few companies offering other alternate inks for the Epson Claria or Fujifilm inks, Inkthrift CL by inkjetmall/Vemont ink
http://shop.inkjetmall.com/Shop-By-Ink/InkThrift-CL/InkThrift-CL-dye-ink-220ml-Lt-Magenta.html
$26.93 for 220ml makes 123$/litre, this ink had been tested as well and findings reported in the above thread, you would have to add transportation and sales tax, and you are limited to 220ml bottles which again may be too much as well for some users.
I tested another ink performing similarly - Solution CL by Falter in Poland,
https://inkjetsolution.eu/de_DE/p/SOLUTION-CL-CYAN/711
which is available as 70ml for 8.61€ or 250ml for 29,29€ which makes 123€/117€/litre which is very much preferable for European customers - no duty/tax and lower transport cost.
Looking to their offers of Solution CL cartridges - e.g. 500ml does not drop the cost any further, those
have a higher sales price https://inkjetsolution.eu/de_DE/p/S...FRONTIER-DRY-MINILAB-DL410-MAGENTA-500-ML/708
There is another company in Ireland selling these Solution CL cartridges at a slightly higher price
http://www.imagecreationsupplies.ie/solution-cl-ink-for-epson-sure-lab-d-700-black-200-ml
at 144€/litre (ex tax), and this company does not offer this same ink in smaller bottles like Falter does.
I currently have a Solution CL CMYK inkset on order at Falter, and I'll run the fading test again against the Fujifil, DL inks, it'll take a while, they fade pretty slowly, I'll report findings as they become available.
I haven't included other inks in this little wrap up like the recently tested InkOwl ink claiming 'UV resistance', it runs at $10.95 for 120ml or 91$/litre, the performance of this ink does not match the price to any degree.
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