CLI-8 refills - Ink permanence vs. accuracy vs. gamut

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martin0reg said:
.. many photographs are given to friends .. who are taping it to refrigerators ..
To get me right: consider this as the most demanding example for durability and color accuracy - as the given person don't have any backup, the photo might be important, and it is exposed both to gas/ozone and light/UV ...
 

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Grandad35 said:
I know that this is probably "over the top", but I wanted to make the point that what most people refer to as "color accuracy" is really "the color that I remember in my mind's eye", and that each of us will have a different idea of what those colors are.

I have been using 3rd party ink to refill for several years with a custom printer profile, and am quite pleased with the results. Without a custom profile, this would not be the case.
Thanks for the explanation. This is why I asked a few weeks ago if I buy a printer/monitor calibrator, will I get a good result as close to using OEm inks with OEM papers.
 

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strobemonkey said:
Thanks for the explanation. This is why I asked a few weeks ago if I buy a printer/monitor calibrator, will I get a good result as close to using OEm inks with OEM papers.
Buy the monitor calibrator (about $150-200), as you have to recalibrate your monitor every month or so (once/week is recommended) and it must be done on your monitor. A spectrophotometer based profiling system for a printer is far more expensive and it is usually a better choice to have your printer profiles created by a profiling service because you can print the targets on your printer and mail them in. Some people use a less expensive scanner based printer profiling system. Their results are acceptable for some people, but not all.
 

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Grandad35, do you know anything about the Canon Color Management Tool Pro software which is offered for free on their website? It seems to be made for an Eye-One Display 2 device. Not a spectrophotometer to be sure, but I wonder if it would be better than a scanner?
 

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tony22 said:
Grandad35, do you know anything about the Canon Color Management Tool Pro software which is offered for free on their website? It seems to be made for an Eye-One Display 2 device. Not a spectrophotometer to be sure, but I wonder if it would be better than a scanner?
I had never heard of this software package before, but I found it here (http://www.canon-europe.com/For_Hom...s/Pixma_Pro9000/Color_Management_Tool_Pro.asp). Under Step 3 it says:
"The measuring instrument used is the X-Rite Eye-One Series (excluding Eye-One Display 2 and Eye-One monitor)."
To the best of my knowledge, the Eye-One is always a spectrophotometer. The Display 2 is a colorimeter, and the wording specifically excludes this device.

If you have an Eye-one, you probably already have the printer profiling software. If you managed to find one without the software, the Canon package would be worth trying.
 

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Grandad35 said:
"The measuring instrument used is the X-Rite Eye-One Series (excluding Eye-One Display 2 and Eye-One monitor)."
Hmm, the Canon USA site does not make that sort of clear distinction. It says "Eye-One series including Eye-One Pro". Kind of makes it sound a little like other Eye-One models might work. Or maybe not.
 
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