Canon CLI 271 resetter issue

[fdm2000]

Further comments on OEM cartridges - when I go to Walmart and purchase Canon cartridges off the shelf are these manufactured by Canon or by a company that manufactures the cartridges for Canon and so labels them?

 

[Ink stained Fingers]

Yes, there is some ambiguity and dual meaning with the term 'OEM', see the Wikipedia definition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OEM_(disambiguation)
An OEM supplier in this definition is a subsystem/product supplier to an end product manufacturer or seller, just as an example - Canon was (probably still is) supplying lots of laser print engines to other companies e.g. Dell, and Dell adds the controller, the outer case, the firmware, defines the product options and sells it as a Dell printer - Canon is an OEM supplier (just as an example with Canon/Dell), or Toyo in Japan may (probably) produce the ink cartridges for Canon to their proprietary specs , and Canon sells them as part of their Canon printer kit - as their own brand. Toyo would be an OEM supplier in this case.
But other people use the word 'OEM' to separate a particular (original) 'OEM' product from 3rd party equivalent items but Canon does not have any business relation with - or even competes - the 'OEM' cartridge is the genuine Canon cartridge, and the other cartridges are competing compatibles (to a degree)

 

[fdm2000]

Thanks Ink Stained Fingers. Excellent examples - so one must assume that when forum members refer to Canon OEM cartridges they mean genuine Canon unless otherwise qualified and not competing compatibles.

 

[PeterBJ]

Thanks Ink Stained Fingers. Excellent examples - so one must assume that when forum members refer to Canon OEM cartridges they mean genuine Canon unless otherwise qualified and not competing compatibles.

Yes just that.

The genuine AKA OEM Canon cartridges have the brand "Canon" in one or more places, and also show the type number. For instance PGI-520BK and CLI-521Y. The compatible/3rd party/after market cartridges don't show the name "Canon" and the type number is normally similar but not identical to the that of the cartridge it is meant to replace. Here is an example:

Edit: There is more about OEM and non OEM cartridges in this thread.

 

[fdm2000]

I think the Hat has a good point - of the two genuine Canon cartridges I have refilled one filled without issues and the other began leaking profusely out of the outlet immediately upon filling. Possibly a defect or a Canon failure by design?

 

[stratman]

term OEM... cartridges manufactured and sold by the Canon company...

AFAIK, in this forum, OEM Canon cartridges has always referred to Canon cartridges and nothing else. To use the term differently in this forum is a misnomer. No one else but Canon has the Canon cartridge. All others are inferior to some extent or another, albeit some may be very good functionally.

products that are manufactured by other unrelated companies that sell Canon compatible cartridges.

"Compatible" - you answered your own question! Compatible denotes 3rd party unless you are referring to an upgraded part that is replacement for the original. With Canon inkjet printers, for example, you may see a different part number for an upgraded print head that is the direct replacement compatible for the print head that originally was designed for that model printer.

If Canon farms out manufacture of their cartridges to 10 different companies they are all OEM because the cartridges are packaged for and used by Canon the company. Any cartridge not made for the company Canon itself but designed to work with Canon printers is a compatible/aftermarket/third party.

 

[stratman]

Possibly a defect or a Canon failure by design?

Not enough information to determine. Leaking following a refill is most likely due to human error.

 

[fdm2000]

Getting back to resetting after refilling another forum member posted the following..."My recommendation and it still stands is that you use the aftermarket refills with ARC chips on these models. I use them myself and they work very well. Additionally on the CLI-270 /271 I have found that the ARC chips will reset when the cart is indicated low and refilled. It does it prior to empty. With this, the 270/271 models also work very well. Even the Chinese have caught on to why resetting prior to empty is a good idea. Well, it has taken the whole Canon refilling space long enough o discover that after I pushed it. Furthermore, Canon had revised something in the passages within the printhead allowing lower susceptibility to compromised ink flow. Generally this has been across the board it appears. The resetter is nice but they work only very well with the XL carts and in consideration of what these printers are meant to do, the total refill cost of an XL set and resetter, is not really at the value end of the spectrum".
Wondering which online seller has the most reliable aftermarket refills with ARC chips - any opinions and use experiences?

 

[stratman]

Wondering which online seller has the most reliable aftermarket refills with ARC chips - any opinions and use experiences?

Most reliable is not an easily answered question. No one has tested ALL after market cartridges.

If Mikling of Precision Colors states his third party cartridges with ARC chips "works very well" than they probably do. Mikling appears to test his products well. He has in the past held off on selling aftermarket cartridges because he could not source ones to his satisfaction. If his advertised cartridges did not "work very well" then we would have comments in the forum and had a discussion with Mikling. We are not shy and neither is Mikling.

 

[RWL]

Thanks for the input RWL - wondering if your resetter was for the CLI270/271 cartridges? If so could you possibly provide from where you obtained it.

TX Frank

I got it at Refill Bay
https://refillbay.com/product/canon-cli-271-pgi-270-chip-resetter.php