Are there refill problems ahead for the Pro printer users ?

[The Hat]

I had been asked by @palombian to test out a brand new pigment ink-set made in the EU and I used my PGI-9 cartridges and the initial results look very promising.

While the inks work perfectly well and the colours look smashing, it was some time later that I couldn’t get a good ink flow from the print head again, it was like the ink inside the heads had simply dried up in minutes.

This problem looked very similar to the “Yello Jello” strike I had when I was using a CLI-42 cartridge, resulting in the output of the yellow ink been reduced by anything up to 90%.

I had no difficultly reverting back to my old inks and the print head was not damaged from running a couple of dozen test prints while the yellow nozzles were clogged, the dried ink somehow stopped the heads from overheating.

This maybe a one off but I honestly don’t know so it would be advisable to keep that in mind especially if you intend to refill your own Pro printers, maybe this ink was not intended for use in the PGI-9 cartridge !

This is not a scare notice more of an advisory one so please stay alert to all the new changes in today’s market place..

 

[stratman]

Was ink dry in the cartridge / sponge?

Did you see jello?

Had you purged the cartridges before filling with the new ink?

How long did you leave the printer unused before the problem was noticed?

Why did the chicken cross the road?

 

[The Hat]

Was ink dry in the cartridge / sponge? No.

Did you see jello? No.

Had you purged the cartridges before filling with the new ink? Yes.

How long did you leave the printer unused before the problem was noticed? An Hour.

Why did the chicken cross the road? She taught she had seen Jello over there !..

Why did the Rat cross the road ? … He wanted to get the flat from Goodyear..
Flat .. (Apartment)

 

[palombian]

I found the PGI-9 inks on the new retail outlet of a long time German supplier and was initially very pleased, in the first place for the magenta not causing banding on MX7600/IX7000.

I filled initially an IX7000 with the inks. The yellow was previously filled with I.S., so I did an intensive rinse (the other colours were OEM's and since all 3th party suppliers claim compatibility I didn't - and had no problems until now).
The cartridges were afterwards transfered to a MX7600 to exclude the printhead as cause.
I also tried to exclude cartridge feed.

I could observe in total 3 times that after about 50-100 pages the yellow started to fade and the nozzle check loosing more and more lines.
This was solved by deep cleaning of all colours (so I can't exclude that other colours should produce the same error after a longer time).
The (matte) black is certainly OK.

Since The Hat is the Canon expert I informed him on my findings.
Unfortunatily he ran in the same problem.
I never had clogs on these printers (with OEM or I.S. ink) so I do not have the experience to indicate a reason, but it happened 2 times during a continuous printing of more than 100 colour office documents, heat could certainly be a factor.

Please note that this fenomenon was observed on printers with a different head than the Pro9500's, there are not many of them around (The Hat and myself own the last ones ) and that the ink probably not has been tested on these models.

I did not use the new ink yet on the 9500, and the IX7000/MX7600 only use CMYK and matte black.

I will inform the supplier and continue testing after the holidays.

 

[CakeHole]

Sounds to me with my limited knowledge more it being a case of it being just poor ink or a case where possibly the ink used previously does not agree with the new ink and thus some reaction occurs clogging the purge pads/tubes/park pads (i hope thats the right term).

I do remember back in my Epson C42 days mixing 2 bottles of different dye refill ink and that turning in to a thick goo. Could be something similar happening, though i suspect its more a case of just poor ink. Especially even more so when you consider those that use a combo dye/pigment printer mainly have issues with pigment black, so in a printer where it is all pigment i imagine the quality of ink is even more important.

Then again my knowledge is limited so i could be talking out of the wrong hole.

 

[stratman]

"...i could be talking out of the wrong hole.

Would that be your pie hole?

 

[CakeHole]

Pie hole here still means your mouth but just overly loud.