Advice on IP6600D-Pro-100 print colors comparison

ruben_c

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We use the spyder studio kit in our office. Of course, I don't have to talk about monitor calibration.

Once your monitor is calibrated you have two options:

Trying with standard icc profiles from the paper manufacturers, or if you wish to have more sophisticated printer profiles like we do, you can do them with the spyder print.

If you're already sure you want that, spyder studio is better price than buying monitor and printer calibrator separately, but if you're not sure I would try monitor calibration and standard profiles first.
 

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We use the spyder studio kit in our office. Of course, I don't have to talk about monitor calibration.

Once your monitor is calibrated you have two options:

Trying with standard icc profiles from the paper manufacturers, or if you wish to have more sophisticated printer profiles like we do, you can do them with the spyder print.

If you're already sure you want that, spyder studio is better price than buying monitor and printer calibrator separately, but if you're not sure I would try monitor calibration and standard profiles first.
Thx Ruben,
i've been away til now and have gone ahead and with your suggestion on the kit.
My main printer which is used offline only is winXP so the spyder is my best option.
I'd have gone with colormunki but it's not going to work on XP.
Up to now i have been using Monaco with the old tried and true Xrite DTP94 sensor to calibrate.
 

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To all of you that helped me here and replied via PM i want to thank you.
The update to this is really deserving of praise for Canon as they stepped up and sent a replacement, along with 2 sets of ink.
The good news here is that the first set, and replacement set of inks print the same, but the new unit produces better blue hues and pinks as well, so there must have been something amiss in the first unit.
One thing the first unit did that the replacement did not was to exhibit an alternating white/amber LED warning...........not any number of flashes, but just kept blinking back and forth......the first unit required 3 on/off cycles to clear this, but i had suspicions.

Canon had the replacement at my doorstep within 4 days........Bravo Canon, and it's another reason why i am a diehard Canon user.......not to mention that owning all Canon DSLR and lenses have me locked in:thumbsup

-mike
 

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precondition before comparing printouts of different priners is profiling of both, and using those ICC profiles for the printouts. Qimage makes it easy to use custom profiles. It's the ink, but as well the driver settings, and don't forget the paper you are using - all of those parameters impact the color of a printout, and only with profiling you'll get the most out of the ink and the paper for your printouts, and then it doesn't matter if the raw cyan or whatever ink of different printers may appear to be different. Don't think that the Canon preinstalled profiles are any good if you use a different non Canon paper, the Canon profiles are only valid for genuine Canon inks on Canon papers.
 

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precondition before comparing printouts of different priners is profiling of both, and using those ICC profiles for the printouts. Qimage makes it easy to use custom profiles. It's the ink, but as well the driver settings, and don't forget the paper you are using - all of those parameters impact the color of a printout, and only with profiling you'll get the most out of the ink and the paper for your printouts, and then it doesn't matter if the raw cyan or whatever ink of different printers may appear to be different. Don't think that the Canon preinstalled profiles are any good if you use a different non Canon paper, the Canon profiles are only valid for genuine Canon inks on Canon papers.


Not forgetting that any product that is mass produced in relatively large quantities will have inherent manufacturing variations.

This not only applies to our printers, printheads, inks, and papers, but also to our measuring spectrophotometer’s and colorimeter’s. Especially as most of us are using the basic entry or consumer level products.

Ostensibly the Spyder and Colormunki have neutral calibration setting, but as far as I can ascertain it only sets a white point and does not measure spectral or chromatic value.

Just when we thought the playing field was level.


Roy Sletcher

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One of my favourite taglines which I use on other colour related sites:
“Colour management is not rocket science, but it is not much harder”.
Couple of years ago got a response from a fellow working in the Jet Propulsion Labs in California saying, “I am a rocket
scientist, and I am telling you rocket science is harder.” - so much for being a smart-ass. :(
 

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I'm using an i1Pro on an i1iO , and the first printouts I do when I get a new paper or new inks are the color matrices for the color profiles to measure. Using a Colormunki etc is the first step in color profiling and implies already a change of mind - recognizing the necessity and imporance of printer profiling. Is it like rocket science ? Not high level anymore - men have been on the moon 40 years ago, and profiling tools are around as well for quite a while.
 
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