3880 - Inkjetfly vs InkRepublic vs Inkjetmall

[jzucker]

I posted this in the wrong forum originally...

Any updates on these inks? Apparently, there was a magenta cast with IJF but supposedy it's been corrected. Just wondering about the latest round of inks and icc profiles. I use a combination of epson and red river paper.

I assume I'll need to get new profiles for these inks?

 

[pharmacist]

Hi jzucker,

Actually I do not know. The only thing I have discovered the normal strength magenta/light magenta Inkjetfly IMA 24/36 V3 ink set for the Epson R2400 and Pro 38000 caused a very strong magenta cast in colour prints and most importantly in the ABW-mode and by pure intuition I tried it in my Epson R3000 (using the vivid magenta version) and it worked out very good and the magenta cast is gone: most importantly in the ABW-mode and the best thing is you can use your current ICC profiles along with this combination.

How this translates to the Epson Pro 3880: I do not know, but my feelings is that using this normal strength magenta Inkjetfly IMA 24/36 V3 ink in this vivid magenta printer will give you a similar result as it did in my Epson R3000.

 

[jzucker]

anyone else?

 

[Tin Ho]

The magenta and light magenta ink used by R3800 and R3880 are different. They are not interchangeable. I am in the process of acquiring a R2880 which uses the same set of ink for R3880. I was told that R3800 magenta and light magenta ink can not be used on R2880 nor R3880.

 

[pharmacist]

Tin Ho: actually you can without any problems. The other way round could be problem, because the vivid magenta inks are much denser and the Pro 3880 and R2880 have their print heads adapted to cope with this much denser ink.

 

[Tin Ho]

If R2800 or R3800 magenta and light magenta inks are used in R2880 and R3880 will there be a green cast as the magenta and light magenta are not as sting as should be? It seems if you can't do it one way then you can't do it the other around either. I don't know. If I do get the R2880 I will just stick to the correct vivid magenta and light magenta. Thanks, Pharmacist for the great tip.

 

[pharmacist]

Hi Tin Ho: it depends on the ink used. Some aftermarket inks like the Inkjetfly IMA24/36 V3 I have tested in my Epson Pro 3800 produces such a strong magenta cast in the ABW-mode the prints were far from neutral B&W, because the magenta was very strong. So I used this in my Epson R3000 and guess what: the prints came out almost perfectly neutral. So somehow the normal strength magenta/light magenta of Inkjetfly perfectly matches the ABW-mode of the vivid magenta based R3000.

The reason is the ABW-mode uses some of the light magenta/light cyan and yellow inks to neutralise the rather warm tone of the black and grey inks (LB and LLB). Epson internal RIP are based on the strength of their own proprietary inks, so aftermarket inks do not fit.

 

[Tin Ho]

Pharmacist, I was in a store last weekend and I was told that R3000 and R3880 (as well as R2880) use vivid magenta inks. R3800 on the other hand uses regular magenta inks. All other inks used by all these printers are the same k3 inks. I was told that the vivid magenta inks are stronger. That's probably why your pro3800 produced magenta cast in the ABW mode. The Inkjetfly's IMA24/36 V3 inks probably contains vivid magenta inks and is for R3000 and R3880 (R2880). For your 3800 you can get regular K3 magenta and light magenta and the magenta cast should be gone. I just ordered a R2880 for a project. I thought of getting R3000 or R3880. But I don't think I get to keep the printer after the project so I settled with a R2880 leaving me more budget for inks. I am looking for inks now. I want really high quality inks. The funding for the project includes high quality inks. I may stick to Epson if I have to.

 

[pharmacist]

Hi Tin Ho,

I actually used the standard NON vivid magenta of Inkjetfly IMA 24/36 V3. Actually the first time I was send the vivid magenta version of the ink and afterwards I received the standard strength magenta, but it has that cast. So you are right about the stronger magenta. This is the reason you should not use the vivid magenta in the Epson R2400/Pro 3800 printers. Both the R2880/R3000 and the Pro 3880 have their print heads adopted to cope with the denser vivid magenta ink.

 

[Tin Ho]

Pharmacist, I saw prints from R2000, R3000, R3880 and Pro7990 at the store when I was there last weekend. The colors all looked almost identical but the ones from R3000 and 3880 were a little more saturated. I did not look close at the prints from Pro7990. I think it was also a little more saturated. But the difference is really not much. The 3800 probably produces just about identical colors like 3000 does. I believe Wpson changes the ink just to beat the 3rd party competition. The R2000 uses inks that are more different but still produces just about identical colors too.

I am going to try 3rd party inks for my R2880. The first thing I will need is to get is a set of refillable cartridges. Can you suggest any? Thanks a lot.