Russians use as they claim Cilit Bang for Print Head cleaning

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Russians use as they claim Cilit Bang for Print Head cleaning:

http://www.resetters.ru/index.php?showtopic=7071

You ca nalso see some very strange CIS on the photos.

Your taughts are welcome.

 

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OK, I've spent a few minutes on a google translated version of the link and I am now thinking in badly translated English.

I think they may be concerned with blocked pigment ink, but not sure.

There is no positive ID on the type of Cilit Bang they are using, the closest is "What smells the best" which is somewhat, er, unscientific. As Cilit bang comes in different formulations, with the toilet cleaners being up to 15% of phosphoric/sulphamic acid, I would be wary of using this stuff. The Degreaser looks least dangerous for the heads, being a detergent mixture.

I've only ever used either water or a IPA (propanol) water mix on print heads. Sometimes the answer is just a long soak on a sponge or pad.

With all due respect to our Russian friends, the CIS system looks stereotypically Russian in a stereotypical 1980's American portrayal of Russian technology. It does the same job, but it looks like it was thrown together by partially sighted engineers, while we are used to nicer looking and easier designs. But if it works, it works and that's what matters (engineers perspective)

Interesting link!

 

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OK, I've spent a few minutes on a google translated version of the link and I am now thinking in badly translated English.

I think they may be concerned with blocked pigment ink, but not sure.

There is no positive ID on the type of Cilit Bang they are using, the closest is "What smells the best" which is somewhat, er, unscientific. As Cilit bang comes in different formulations, with the toilet cleaners being up to 15% of phosphoric/sulphamic acid, I would be wary of using this stuff. The Degreaser looks least dangerous for the heads, being a detergent mixture.

I've only ever used either water or a IPA (propanol) water mix on print heads. Sometimes the answer is just a long soak on a sponge or pad.

With all due respect to our Russian friends, the CIS system looks stereotypically Russian in a stereotypical 1980's American portrayal of Russian technology. It does the same job, but it looks like it was thrown together by partially sighted engineers, while we are used to nicer looking and easier designs. But if it works, it works and that's what matters (engineers perspective)

Interesting link!

Well I read Russian no problem so I don't need google translated version.

Translation:

I don't know what version of clit bang they use because it's not specified. You must use a drop on head pickup for 5 seconds they say. Not longer. Then use syringe with hot water and look that water sprays from nozzles are continuous. That's it.

They list it as: Working technique on canon print head cleaning.
It's not an experiment thread etc.

 

[Froggy]

Well I read Russian no problem so I don't need google translated version.

You have my total admiration. I cannot learn languages written in the same alphabet as English, let alone a different alphabet. Much respect.

I don't know what version of clit bang they use because it's not specified. You must use a drop on head pickup for 5 seconds they say. Not longer. Then use syringe with hot water and look that water sprays from nozzles are continuous. That's it.

That would suggest that they might be using some strong chemical but in a controlled way with plenty of flushing. Depending on what cilit they are using, this could be an acid wash, a caustic wash or just a detergent wash.

Personally, I would go with the water/IPA method, but if that fails then I might be brave enough for something stronger if the alternative was to buy a new head anyway. Another option for me to try when needed.

 

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I find the usage of Cilit Bang rather risky. It is certainly not pH neutral. Either very acidic or caustic. A huge change in pH can cause some inks, especially pigment inks, to precipitate very fast and cause even worse clogging and might even become concrete inside the very fine capillary tubes of your printhead. A mixture of isopropanol, propylene glycol, water with a few drops of ammonia (will make the solution a bit caustic, but not to much) is much safer.

 

[jflan]

The Russian piece is interesting, but the following is what has worked for me :

"Art Entlich Formula"

1 part Isopropyl alcohol 90+% (no perfumes, lubricants)
2 parts Original Windex w/ammoniaD (not "no-drip")

Verify compatibility with your ink. Place a drop in the solution.
The ink should disperse immediately upon contact.

I have soaked, pumped (printheads) and built cleaning cartridges with this formula.
Works even better when heated to a temp of 120F - 130F
I expose the printhead to the formula for just a few minutes, then flush with distilled water. Then install and print some test pages to push a good volume of ink through the head.
For severe cases, where the printhead loss is calculated, I have increased exposure time accordingly.

In areas where Windex is not available I have heard of "Windolene" being substituted but I can't verify its effectiveness.

Thanks to Art Entlich for taking the time to send his manual.

 

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I use oxygen enriched water spray with ammonia that works well for me