Problem with R2000 CISS

[costadinos]

I've been using my R2000 with refillable cartridges for a while, but I've decided to switch to a CISS system, since I'm doing a lot of prints and the cartridges of the R2000 don't actually hold much ink.

Anyway, I bought a system from CityInkExpress in the UK and filled/primed it with OCP ink.
The problem is that no ink at all comes through now (I don't get an incomplete nozzle check, I get no ink on the paper at all), running cleaning cycles doesn't help, and it's not a clogging issue. I've installed similar systems on different printers before, so I know that priming of the CISS was done correctly.

I noticed something different though and don't know how to get around this; usually when I replaced the cartridges in the past the printer would go through a priming (charging?) cycle before becoming ready to print (used to move back and forth fast etc), now with that CISS (I guess it has something to do with the chips), it immediately goes to print ready position and only gives me a warning on the computer about not using genuine cartridges. Turning off speed and progress monitor doesn't help either.

Has anybody experienced this with their printers? Could that be the problem for the ink not going through, and is there any way to force the printer to go through the initial charging cycle?

 

[jtoolman]

Did the printer report your system as full? WHat type of chip system is it?
Individual so called Auto Reset Chips?
So when one color runs to a technical empty condition, it will then reset after going through a MOCK ink cart change procedure?
The R2000 carts chips as you may recall with refillables, required you to short out the two circular tarminals.
Does this CISS use a chip bar with reset buttons?
Your air vents are open with the air filters in place?
If you hit the ink button and remove the carts and reinstall them, and then hit the ink button, should initiate an ink purge.
I'll go to the CityInkExpress site and take a look at this CISS.

 

[jtoolman]

Did the printer report your system as full? WHat type of chip system is it?
Individual so called Auto Reset Chips?
So when one color runs to a technical empty condition, it will then reset after going through a MOCK ink cart change procedure?
The R2000 carts chips as you may recall with refillables, required you to short out the two circular tarminals.
Does this CISS use a chip bar with reset buttons?
Your air vents are open with the air filters in place?
If you hit the ink button and remove the carts and reinstall them, and then hit the ink button, should initiate an ink purge.
I'll go to the CityInkExpress site and take a look at this CISS.

EDIT:
Yes, it does use the dual push button reset. I hope it is the Reset All to Full and not just the single color reset.

 

[costadinos]

Did the printer report your system as full? WHat type of chip system is it?
Individual so called Auto Reset Chips?
So when one color runs to a technical empty condition, it will then reset after going through a MOCK ink cart change procedure?
The R2000 carts chips as you may recall with refillables, required you to short out the two circular tarminals.
Does this CISS use a chip bar with reset buttons?
Your air vents are open with the air filters in place?
If you hit the ink button and remove the carts and reinstall them, and then hit the ink button, should initiate an ink purge.
I'll go to the CityInkExpress site and take a look at this CISS.

Thanks jtoolman!
The chips are supposedly ARC, the type of 4+4 with one reset switch per 4.
Vents/filters are in place.

When I re-install the cartridge block the printer does not go through the cycle that used to go with the originals or the refillables, simply goes to being ready to print in 10-15sec...

 

[jtoolman]

I would reset your orignal refillables, and reinstall them to see if the printer will do the expected ink purge. Then see if you have regained ink flow.
Looking at your CISS form the site, it appears NOT to be ARC. ARC means it will reset automatically to full whan one chip reaches empty. You have a manual reset chipped CISS with a single button per four positions. Every resetable chip I've seen for the R2000 and also R3000 needs to be reset by hand via shorting out the chip, either with a piece of metal or push button.

Something is not quite correct with your set up.
Go back to your refillables simply to determine that your printer is operating properly and your CISS is not.

 

[costadinos]

I would reset your orignal refillables, and reinstall them to see if the printer will do the expected ink purge. Then see if you have regained ink flow.
Looking at your CISS form the site, it appears NOT to be ARC. ARC means it will reset automatically to full whan one chip reaches empty. You have a manual reset chipped CISS with a single button per four positions. Every resetable chip I've seen for the R2000 and also R3000 needs to be reset by hand via shorting out the chip, either with a piece of metal or push button.

Something is not quite correct with your set up.
Go back to your refillables simply to determine that your printer is operating properly and your CISS is not.

Thanks again jtoolman.

I'm not 100% sure about it being ARC or not, it does have the reset switch, but so does the CISS I have for my P50 and that does reset when empty.
I bought a set of refillables for the R2000 from China that were indeed ARC if you are interested, they are different from those sold by precision colors/marrutt etc:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/For-EPSON...t=AU_B_I_Office_Furniture&hash=item1c2b3c19c5

Anyway, about my CISS, I let the printer sit overnight and printed several pages of solid color today and it seems that the problem has resolved, but the issue of the printer not going through the initialization remains, it would be nice if we could somehow force it. I thought WICReset might do that, but is does not support ink charging for the R2000...

 

[websnail]

Initialisation isn't much different from head cleaning so you could just run a head clean manually via the "printing preferences" > "maintenance" tab.

As for why the printer is not longer handling this little routine, as I'm not directly familiar with the R2000, can I ask, did it do a priming/setup routine before you installed the CIS? It could be that Epson have removed it themselves and you're relying on previous experience that is perhaps not relevant with this model?

Just a thought really...

The one thing that springs to mind is that the ARC's themselves may rely on side stepping the init' process in order to function so it could be a "by design" limitation.

Worth contacting CityInkExpress and asking though.

 

[costadinos]

Initialisation isn't much different from head cleaning so you could just run a head clean manually via the "printing preferences" > "maintenance" tab.

As for why the printer is not longer handling this little routine, as I'm not directly familiar with the R2000, can I ask, did it do a priming/setup routine before you installed the CIS? It could be that Epson have removed it themselves and you're relying on previous experience that is perhaps not relevant with this model?

Just a thought really...

The one thing that springs to mind is that the ARC's themselves may rely on side stepping the init' process in order to function so it could be a "by design" limitation.

Worth contacting CityInkExpress and asking though.

No, the same printer was going through the initialization cycle when I used the refillable cartridges with it (and I also used a type of refillables with ARCs that didn't side-step the process).
Although I don't know what happens in that cycle it was different (at least the "sequence" looked different ) from a head clean.

You may have missed the last post, I finally got it to work, but I had to print several solid color pages after which the ink started coming out. Running a few cleaning cycles didn't help the first time I tried...

 

[websnail]

I miss a lot of things at the moment due to various sickness bugs driving my family nuts with time off, etc... but good to hear you at least got it partially resolved.