Is you’re Printer Missing the pigment black ?

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This is the difference in printouts on my i865, using the plain and Matte paper settings, one uses only the pigment ink the other uses all of the colours for text.

Can anyone see the differences below, look closely to compare..?

Matte.jpg

Plain.jpg


The top one is printed with all colours and the bottom is printed with just the pigment black.
 

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It is hard to tell, but to me it looks like the pigment black is a little bit sharper, and the pigment black is a very little bit reddish and the dye black is a very little bit greenish.

Try doing scans in a resolution as high as possible. To avoid uploading huge files crop the scans to include only the word "Windows" from the "Windows Printer Test Page" headline.

I have done a similar comparison and found that the paper quality was more important than the type of ink. See this post.
 
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I would say that the second block of text looks very slightly stronger in contrast, but the difference would normally go unnoticed.
 

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The bottom image appears slightly sharper. The top image was a little deeper blacker but this might be an artifact from the slight bluish-green cast to the white of this image on my monitor.
 

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The main purpose of the thread was just to highlight the fact that you can still use your printer even when the pigment head has gone west, the only down side to doing this, it takes longer to print, the text isn’t as sharp and isn’t water proof.

Here is a 3200 dpi shot of the smaller text in greyscale.
The Print Quality was set to Standard..

New 3 Text.jpg

It's easy to see the difference now, and the bottom one is Laser..
 

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The paper seems to be deciding factor here.
Some plain papers are so bad that DYE ink doesn't work for them. The quality ones do not have such problem.
 

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A poor Tradesman always blames his tools, the paper is not the culprit here.. ! :hu
 
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