Hybrid CLI-42 Refill and OEM?

Paul Verizzo

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So I've had my PRO-100 for a month, perhaps. I've printed - this is the scientific standard - a "heck of a lot" of prints. Mostly half sheets color for paper testing, some B&W. Oh, that's letter sized sheets. Perhaps it's only a few dozen color full sized sheets equivalent.

True to reputation, the ink usage is niggardly. (If you think I went racist, check the dictionary.) Over the years I've seen people do a review and conclude that the Canon printer in question is sucking ink. No.......you're using big sheets of paper and expect a printer to use no ink at all. I.e., moron.

Anyway, the first cart that dropped enough to make that little picture show a lowered level was Gray. Next, black. Examining the cartridges, it's obvious that Light Gray and Yellow will be the next to be displayed as lower.

I've been refilling for some 15 years. I love to save money. I also am not sure that anyone, our beloved Mike included, makes aftermarket inks that have the longevity traits that the Chromalife + inks do. And I really, really appreciate his latest work in making the compatible inks "pop!"

I want my prints to have the lifespan of the OEM inks, but yes, I love to save money. Since the black, gray, and light gray seem to be the most used, it occurred to me that I can get away with aftermarket PC black and gray inks without likely, repeat, likely reducing overall print life, and then buy OEM carts for the other five slots. I've ordered those three inks this afternoon from PC.

Mike has pointed out that regardless of your setting for full color or Grayscale, all ink colors get used. My experience certainly backs that up.
 

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I want my prints to have the lifespan of the OEM inks, but yes, I love to save money. Since the black, gray, and light gray seem to be the most used, it occurred to me that I can get away with aftermarket PC black and gray inks without likely, repeat, likely reducing overall print life, and then buy OEM carts for the other five slots. I've ordered those three inks this afternoon from PC.

Replacing even one ink with non OEM will make print colors fade differently, you will regret it in the long run, but save money. If that is important that is.
 

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Replacing even one ink with non OEM will make print colors fade differently, you will regret it in the long run, but save money. If that is important that is.

Well, sure, there's always a POSSIBLE downside like that. But I figure that Black and Grays are probably the least proprietary or problematic to formulate. As we all know from even the wet color print days to today, magenta is the color that still gives fits to formulators. It's always the one to fade soonest and most.
 

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Well, sure, there's always a POSSIBLE downside like that. But I figure that Black and Grays are probably the least proprietary or problematic to formulate. As we all know from even the wet color print days to today, magenta is the color that still gives fits to formulators. It's always the one to fade soonest and most.
On the contrary the black and grey on the Pro 100 are most vital for proper colour reproduction and as said before above by @Smile, you will be wasting your time and money if you think you can integrate these colours accurately and successfully, then think again.

The inkjet printer is a world away from the old wet darkroom days in fact they have no comparison at all except that you end up with an image on paper from both, it’s what you’d call apples and oranges..
 

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On the contrary the black and grey on the Pro 100 are most vital for proper colour reproduction and as said before above by @Smile, you will be wasting your time and money if you think you can integrate these colours accurately and successfully, then think again.

The inkjet printer is a world away from the old wet darkroom days in fact they have no comparison at all except that you end up with an image on paper from both, it’s what you’d call apples and oranges..
In Mike I trust.
 

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Well, sure, there's always a POSSIBLE downside like that. But I figure that Black and Grays are probably the least proprietary or problematic to formulate. As we all know from even the wet color print days to today, magenta is the color that still gives fits to formulators. It's always the one to fade soonest and most.

Well Paul,

I say go for it at. Just make sure you are aware of, and have planned for, any downside risks ahead.

Most of the progress we make in this refilling universe is more evolutionary than revolutionary. People like me who follow the conventional wisdom, no matter how flawed, contribute little to the progress or knowledge base, except to reinforce existing procedures.

Users who think outside the box and push the envelope, as you are doing, contribute greatly to the knowledge base for all participants.

Progress is more often made by somebody pushing the boundaries and then scratching their head saying, "Hmmm! That's strange", in place of the Hollywood version where somebody jumps up and down shrieking "Eureka! - I have discovered it"


RS
 

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Replacing even one ink with non OEM will make print colors fade differently, you will regret it in the long run, but save money.
I'm not sure any of the suppliers engineer their ink for matched fading. In this case, gray or black fading is unlikely to affect the color balance a lot.

But I figure that Black and Grays are probably the least proprietary or problematic to formulate. As we all know from even the wet color print days to today, magenta is the color that still gives fits to formulators. It's always the one to fade soonest and most.
I don't know about this ink set or this cartridge set, but of all the dye inks I have tested, all the third-party black inks have all been rather bad for fading. And magenta isn't always the first to fade among the colors. Sometimes it's cyan.
 

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I would rather use original black / gray than third party for obvious reasons being for BW photos !
 
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