HP ink for Epson cartridge ?

[hobby16]

Hi all,
Do you know if I can use HP inks (a very good ink I'm using for my HP PCS 1213 printer) in a C40 UX Epson printer (black T013 & colors T014 cartridges) ?
I have unclogged the Epson's head (I can see all the jets when injecting windex with a seringue) but nothing prints now and I suspect the ink.
Thank you in advance for your reply.

P.S. The C40UX Epson printer was a giveaway from a friend : it was nearly new but he had not used it for a long time so the head is clogged (a test pattern showed some dots missing for black and nearly all was missing for colors). During the unclogging and priming, I emptied all the cartridges so I refilled them with HP inks, so I don't know if the blank page problem comes from the head or the ink. I've read that some people have bought new cartridges for testing, but to no avail because the head is dead.
Oh I must add, sometimes, I have ONE line printing !?!

 

[dugkeithdale]

Hi,

Is it dye or pigment.

The Vivera pigment inks as far as I know can be used in some Epson printers.

See this link, it is for greyscale printing, but if the black works then presumable the colour will as well.

http://www.paulroark.com/ from the home page go to black and white printing.

 

[hobby16]

It's dye type for changeable HP heads.
I wondered why a HP dye ink would not work in an epson printhead.

 

[nche11]

Well, if it is a give away Epson printer you definitely CAN use whatever ink you got. You can try any pigment based ink too.

 

[mikling]

It may work for pushing ink through, but one of the potential pitfalls will be dribbling ink from the nozzles and obvious wrong color tone.

 

[hobby16]

So if the problem doesn't come from the HP ink in a piezzo head, nor from clogging (since I can see all the jet row when pushing solvent with a seringue), does anybody has an idea of where it comes from, please ?
Is the head victim of a sudden death (before I unclog it, it printed patterns with dots missing, after, its prints nothing while the printer reports no error ?!?).

 

[mikling]

(since I can see all the jet row when pushing solvent with a seringue),.

how are you accomplishing this???? Did you remove the printhead and doing this externally?

 

[hobby16]

@mikling
Yes, I dismounted the head and did the injection on a table (downloaded the maintenance manual before !), I'm electronician.

 

[ian]

The HP Black is a pigment ink, Most of Epson ink is die based ink. the HP colour ink is die based ink as well as the Epson.

You can use die based ink in-place of pigment ink but not the other way around. You must also take into account there is two different types of print head, HP uses heat to move the ink through the print heads This is known as Bubble Jet. Heat boils the ink and makes small air bubbles. As the bubble expands, some of the ink is pushed out of a nozzle onto the paper. When the bubble "pops" (collapses), a vacuum is created. This pulls more ink into the print head from the cartridge. A typical bubble jet print head has 300-600 tiny nozzles, and all of them can fire a droplet simultaneously.

Epson use vibration to move the ink through the print head which is a totally different technology. This technology uses piezo crystals. A crystal is located at the back of the ink reservoir of each nozzle. The crystal receives a tiny electric charge that causes it to vibrate. When the crystal vibrates inward, it forces a tiny amount of ink out of the nozzle. When it vibrates out, it pulls some more ink into the reservoir to replace the ink sprayed out.

So i would not use HP ink in your Epson printer.