can one make light magenta and ligh cayn by diluting magenta and cyan

[martin0reg]

After receiving the 4 carts it was very easy to get the ink bags out, without any tool you can dismantle the plastic body. Even more simple was decanting: you can push a syringe without needle directly into the ink outlet and pull the needed amount of ink ... almost like they were made for refillers...
I diluted M and C to LM and LC with a ratio of 1/3 ink and 2/3 GLO. Seems to match very well.
Put a set of refillables in my R285 ... after a cleaning cycle and several purging prints the first color prints are very similar to those from a dye ink set from coralgraph.
The "black ink only" mode with fujifilm DL ink is very slightly greenish compared to the very neutral of coralgraph. But it's too early for conclusions and further testing, especially fading, has to be made...

 

[pharmacist]

Could you upload some pictures of these fujilab cartridges and how they look ?

 

[martin0reg]

look on ebay for item 121474905422

 

[pharmacist]

If these inks work great, I might buy these cartridges too. So I wait for your experiments concerning fading of these inks.

 

[martin0reg]

You have posted already a very good comparison including the coralgraph ink, which I therefore ordered and used before the fuji ink. Would be interesting to compare the fading these two - but this will take time and I don't know if I am able to do this as good as you did (being not very "orderly")

At first sight the coralgraph ink seems to have the more neutral black of both, so I have no reason to recommend the fuji over the coralgraph yet *. Except for the brand and the expectable continuity of the drylab ink.

*(edit) after reading more about the fuji ink this could be a really good choice.. and regarding the color of black: http://www.printerknowledge.com/threads/which-pigment-ink-for-epson-1500w.9323/page-6#post-76900

BTW there is a newer (better?) sort of dye ink for fuji and epson drylabs...fuji calls it "vividia" ... comes with LM and LC..

 

[Smile]

Anyone know drylab inks for thermal printhead technology, the Fujifilm is for piezo.?
Wonder I could fill something same price as Fujifilm to my Canon 6700D, with 1pl droplets ?

 

[martin0reg]

I would like to know a source for big LFP cartridges with canon or HP original dye ink too...
but I think dye ink could hardly damage a thermal printhead, pigment could.

Here is an interesting thread where mark mccormick from aardenburg-imaging says on the basis of his fading tests that fujifilm DL ink is very similar to claria. This indeed would be a recommendation because the (few) 3rd party dye inks he had tested are fading very fast ... claria is far better almost as good as pigment.
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3396970#forum-post-50999258

 

[Smile]

I think I read on this forum that some user had stocked ink for canon but then got workforce and he used canon ink in it without a problem, same user said this does not work the other way around.

This is because thermal head boils ink, and piezo head just ejects it. So the ink for thermal should leave no residues when boiled (this is why piezo ink is cheaper than thermal btw.) and the viscosity I think is different for the two inks (this is because piezo head can have various droplets from same nozzle, and thermal has a set of different nozzles).

Also thermal ink evaporates most if the water while ink gets on paper, not so with piezo ink. You could print with thermal ink in piezo printer (it prints anything ),but I doubt the other way around and not with 1pl nozzles.

 

[Smile]

fujifilm DL ink is very similar to claria.

What about fujifilm DX? same as DL ink only in smaller amounts?

 

[martin0reg]

If these inks work great, I might buy these cartridges too. So I wait for your experiments concerning fading of these inks.

After printing lots of testphotos on cheap matte and on aldi/netbit glossy paper (was on offer this week) I am more and more convinced of the fuji ink.
Almost no profiling is needed when I print on aldi or on original fuji premium glossy.

For UV fading test go to
http://www.aardenburg-imaging.com/cgi-bin/mrk/_4777c2hvd19kb2NfbGlzdC80
and look for test/ID# 77, which is fuji frontier DL 400 on glossy OEM paper.
Compare these tests of the fuji DL ink with a test of claria: ID# 42 = epson rx680 with epson claria on epson premium glossy.
Results are very good for both.
You have to register to see/download the tests, if it don't work, send me a message.

Price for new carts is around 130euros/usd each, search on ebay for "frontier dl 500ml"...you can also search for "noritsu ink"

Most offers are for black ink, this might be also interesting for your DIY b&w ink set (see paul roark on claria and noritsu dye ink) ... I am curious to try your B&W calculation for pigment with this dye ink, because it may be more compatible with other papers, making better gloss - and pigment matte black seems to clog my printer in no time..

PS: The newer dye ink for drylabs is called "vividia" and comes in 6 colors, including "sky blue" and "pink" (e.g. frontier-s dx100)
http://www.phototec.de/Digital-Imag...-Minilab-Printer-Frontier-S-DX-100::4015.html
The equivalent from epson is "ultrachrome D6-S" with also 6 colors including LM and LC (e.g. surelab d700)
http://www.optimum-direkt.de/epson_surelab.html

Price is around 40euros for 200ml