Black Pigment Ink for Canon PGI-5

nche11

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I am trying to figure out the strange pricing of such ink from different sources available in the United States. I first looked at Alotofthings web site and checked out for individual ink under the bulk ink category. I did not see any offered there. They do offer kits for ip4500 that contain a bottle or two for PGI-5. They offer individual bottles of ink for CLI-8 colors but not for PGI-5.

I then checked out the web site of inksupply.com which I think is selling Image Specialists inks. They do have individual ink bottles of various sizes for CLI-8 colors and PGI-5 as well. The strange thing is their prices for dye ink and pigment black ink for Canon are the same. How is that possible? Their pigment based ink for Epson is far more expensive. How can the price for their Canon pigment black ink be the same to their dye ink is? Does this mean it is not true pigment black ink?

I emailed Hobbicolors and got a quote of their Canon inks. Their black pigment ink is much more expensive than their UW8 inks. That's inline with my anticipations.

I checked Atlantic Inkjet and found that their black pigment ink for PGI-5 is much higher than the price of dye ink for CLI-8 colors too. That seems to make sense also.

I checked Precisioncolrs in Canada, which is said to sell Image Specialists inks too. Strange enough that their dye ink and pigment black ink for Canon PGI-5 are the same too.

Can anyone explain why such differences among these companies? It is particularly strange why alotofthings does not offer individual black pigment ink for PGI-5 and why Image Specialists distributors sell their dye and pigment inks for Canon at a same price. If I understand it correctly pigment based inks are more expensive in general. It is far more expensive than dye based inks.

Does anyone know about this company? Their prices seem to confirm that pigment black ink is far more expensive than dye inks too. The strange thing about this company is their inks have Image Specialists ink part numbers. That tells me that they are IS ink distributor too.

http://www.oddparts.com/ink/
 

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nche11 said:
I then checked out the web site of inksupply.com which I think is selling Image Specialists inks. They do have individual ink bottles of various sizes for CLI-8 colors and PGI-5 as well. The strange thing is their prices for dye ink and pigment black ink for Canon are the same. How is that possible? Their pigment based ink for Epson is far more expensive. How can the price for their Canon pigment black ink be the same to their dye ink is? Does this mean it is not true pigment black ink?
inksupply.com offers pigment ink. I use it, it's pigmented ink. It's the same price as their dye ink. It floats at $115/gal. inkrefillstation.com offers it for $159 WJ1020.
Image specalists offers WJ1020 that is compatible with a number of printers, including the old HP #45 cartridge and various Canon models.

So why is it less expensive than epson ink?

1) The cartridges in question use 20-30pl nozzles
2) The ink is highly saturated with water.
3) The ink offers a low ml/page ratio
4) Epson inks must be geared for micropizo sub 5pl nozzles.
5) We are talking black, which is well likely to be carbon. not exactly exotic.

I could be wrong on any of these issues, but I speak from experience that the MIS ink acts like pigment, you can observe it "not" dissolve in water.

I have "no" clue why pints cost $48 from inksupply.com. Perhaps it's a packaging issue. Higher profit in pints than gal.
 
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