Best refill method for Canon MG 5470 with CLI 751/PGI 750 cartridges

[acjthai]

I am new to this forum and have been scouring its contents and the internet to figure out and understand the best refill method for my newly acquired Canon PIXMA MG 5470 purchased in Thailand. When I moved here last year, I originally bought a Canon PIXMA MG 5320, primarily for mass printing with color on printable DVDs. I saw my first CISS at the store and was convinced by the guys at the shop that I should install it to save a ton of $$$. I had it installed with the new carts that came with the printer and filled it with an ink made for Canon printers (assumed from China). MY 5320 worked great with the CISS until a power surge fried the board, rendering it useless and unfixable.

This time, I decided I had better research this thing more before I just did the same thing. In place of the 5320, I purchased the newer MG5470 (I believe it is the 5420 in the US), I decided to get this one, because I saw online that refillable carts with Auto reset chips (ARC) were available for it (29 USD) from various Chinese companies and the 5320 is no longer available. I am considering buying the clear, refillable, ARC carts also made by numerous Chinese companies. Does anyone have any longer term experience with these kind of ARC carts and would heartily recommend them or discourage me from using them? My MG 5470 came with Canon CLI-751/PGI-750 set up carts. The 750/751 carts do not presently have a chip resetter. If I were to enter into the refilling journey with Canon OEM carts, can/should I use these smaller capacity set-up carts? Or, should I purchase a set of the newer, XL OEM versions and turn them into refillable carts, even though doing so will cost me 60% of the initial purchase price of the printer? Does anyone sell clear, OEM carts (allowing you to see the remaining ink level), so that I do have to take them out and weigh them regularly? As this printer is fairly new on the market and little has been written about it or the 750/751 carts on this forum, any and all insights and advice will be greatly appreciated?

Lastly, I still have 4 huge (500ml) bottles of Canon Ezzy Jet Premium Ink left over from the initial CISS. Does anyone strongly discourage me from using this kind of ink for my 5470? And, if so, does anyone recommend a better substitue that can be purchased at a decent price from S.E. Asia? I just want to determine the most economical way to use the printer for a long time without damaging or ruining another very expensive printer. Sorry for such a long entry; I just want to get this right this time.

Thanks

ACJ

 

[The Hat]

You have obviously done a bit of homework on your new printer regarding the use of refillable and OEM cartridges.

The OEM CLI-751/750 carts are not great to refill and the paper chips on these cartridges are designed to fail
after only a couple of refills plus they cost nearly as much to buy as a new printer again.

The Chinese carts are the only reasonable way to go if you intend to print a lot with the 5470 printer economy wise anyway,
I am not aware that these Chinese carts come with ARC chips, so be aware of that.

I have a similar printer that uses CLI-551/550 carts and it is currently working
with these Chinese refillable cartridges, they only have one time chips no ARCs.

As to how good these cartridges perform well that remains to be seen, only time will tell,
they are easy to refill and see-thru (clear) so they must be inspected regularly for ink levels.

Your printer uses different colour ink (Shades) than you older one did so if you intend using you CISS inks be aware of that also,
you may not even notice the colour shift but it will be there..

 

[acjthai]

Hey man. Thanks for the very timely reply. I was going to list a weblink of one of the websites advertising the CLI-751/PGI-750 carts with the ARC, but it would not allow me to do so as a new member. I will, nevertheless, quote the portion on the website that I am interested to hear your feedback on:

"Our Reset Chips will allow you to use same cartridges over and over by reinserting cartridges (only when prompted by printer software)." They also add: "They come with auto-reset chips on them so they'll be ready to go after each refill."

I also wrote a few of the Chinese companies to try and find out more specifics about the auto reset chip and I received this reply:

"For these models, now in China market, all company use one same type chip [my emphasis], we call it permanent chip, some other company may call it auto reset chip [my emphasis]. actually at the first time use, it will show ink level, but after then, it will not show ink level again, but the chip can continue to use, thats why we call permanent chip."

I do not know a great deal about these ink cartridge chips. But, from what I have read and from the response of this company, it seems like I can reinsert the carts into the MG 5470 and just keep refilling them, as long as I make sure the levels do not get too low. If I have to turn the ink level monitor off on the printer to use these refillable carts, what exactly are the ARCs resetting? This does not seem to be what the 1st website above is advertising; though, the carts with ARCs from this Chinese company look pretty much like all the rest of them from China on other sites do and the other Chinese company clearly stated that this is the case. Thus, I am more prone to believe the lady who replied to me--the ARCs, or permanent chips, are actually only "one time chips." If this is so, what is the chip resetting that "one time?" If it is the ink level monitor and I continued to refill my carts while still in the printer (good idea? I know many do not think so) with the ink level monitor working, will the monitor continue to work? I am just confused as to how all of this works, as you indicate in your post that there is a difference between "one time chips" and "ARCs." Thanks again for your enlightenment. ACJ

 

[The Hat]

The was a Chinese company called Diamondink who were advertising ARC chips for the latest Canon printers
but have now pull their add because they can only supply one time chips
not in fact ARCs, their translation was just poor causing some confusion.

The compatible carts have a onetime chip on them, which means after they show empty they cannot be reset at all (Ever)
but will continue to allow your printer to work if you disable the on screen ink monitoring.

If the ARC chips become available in the future then they would be better to use because when they finally show low ink,
its only a matter of removing the cart for refilling, reinserting it back into the printer and your ink levels will reset to full again.

The practice of refilling your carts while their still in the printer is not a good one at all,
it will only be a matter of time before it floods the electrics and kills the print head, so dont be tempted.

Whether you leave your cartridge in your printer or not the ink levels will still drop to show low then empty,
that process cannot be halted, these Canon chips inside your printer are real smart.

ARC chips are just called that but what in fact it means is Automatic Rest Chips, so for them to function properly
they need to have the power to them cut off by the on/off switch on the front of your printer
or by simply removing them for a second from the print head, then they reset fully..