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  1. peter D

    Papers to minimise fade with aftermarket dye inks.

    Yes I had read your reference to optical brightners in a much earlier posting. I must confess I only know that they inevitably loose their whiteness over time due to UV exposure and that Canon use an aluminium based brightner in their Pro Platinum gloss paper which I've used fairly often for B&W...
  2. peter D

    Papers to minimise fade with aftermarket dye inks.

    Ink Stained Fingers results are being pretty much duplicated by my own fade test setup with the added observation that the only fade discernible with prints made on the swellable paper (Baoding Giant Image paper) is largely in the blacks and due mostly to exposure to light as evidenced by a...
  3. peter D

    Papers to minimise fade with aftermarket dye inks.

    Yes one would here in new Zealand if the total price of the goods plus freight plus insurance exceeds a NZ$ figure that would attract goods and tax to the value of NZ$60. The GST rate here is currently 15% so a total figure of NZ$400 (approximately US$280) is the total imported cost of goods...
  4. peter D

    Papers to minimise fade with aftermarket dye inks.

    After a considerable delay I placed the order for the two 30 X 0.610 metres rolls of Baoding Giant Image RC Swellable paper. The freight forwarder chosen was the New Zealand based one mentioned in the previous post. Cost was US$107 for the 12 kgm package (estimated by the paper vendor) to be...
  5. peter D

    Papers to minimise fade with aftermarket dye inks.

    I'm able to report, perhaps prematurely, that I seem to have found a local (New Zealand based) freight forwarder who will provide a door to door courier (Air) service between Baoding China and my residential address for about half the cost of China Post which was the least expensive of the...
  6. peter D

    Papers to minimise fade with aftermarket dye inks.

    I'm getting similar results at the start of summer here in the antipodes. The microporous Canon Plus Semigloss prints are still fading but the prints on Swellable papers are holding up quite well with the Baoding Giant Image papers a fraction ahead of the the HP so far. Over a month into the...
  7. peter D

    Papers to minimise fade with aftermarket dye inks.

    I'm only using Amazon as an estimator for the parcel size and weight and then using their free across the USA shipping to bring the goods to a freight forwarder that I use to ship from California or Oregon to New Zealand. This is how I get goods from the USA to New Zealand be it from Amazon or...
  8. peter D

    Papers to minimise fade with aftermarket dye inks.

    I can now give an update on the freight charges quoted by Giant Image for 2 small (610mm wide) 30m rolls of their 220gsm swellable paper for freight by China Post to New Zealand. Package weight was quoted at 12 kgm which seems high for essentially 8.06kgms of paper plus the central cardboard...
  9. peter D

    Papers to minimise fade with aftermarket dye inks.

    OK for you guys in "up above" but it will be difficult for us aging antipodeans "down under" to manifest Raynaud's in the digital extremities in front of the Doc what with the Tasman Sea being 6 degrees Celsius hotter than it normally is for the start of December.:(
  10. peter D

    Papers to minimise fade with aftermarket dye inks.

    That's not for me as I'm allergic to cold both psychologically and physically (Raynaud's disease), a contraindication of my genealogy which seems to lean to the Celtic and possibly more specifically Nordic, however in spite of that I did welcome the opportunity to indulge in winter sports when I...
  11. peter D

    Papers to minimise fade with aftermarket dye inks.

    The HP Premium Plus High Gloss 280 gsm photo paper that I've been using (believed to be swellable) has a product number C6832A and is bar coded 8869883994. It is produced for HP Europe of The Netherlands but has a Lot Number referring to Switzerland. The fine print on the back of the packet...
  12. peter D

    Papers to minimise fade with aftermarket dye inks.

    This is looking very promising, thanks for the update. On my monitor I'm picking up a slight difference in saturation of the bottom halves of the middle and right hand patches ie those areas not coated with Gloss Optimiser. As the difference seems to have been there from earlier on with your...
  13. peter D

    Papers to minimise fade with aftermarket dye inks.

    Today a comprehensive fade test of the Giant Image swellable paper was commenced. These were all printed using after market inks supplied by Precision Colors and printed on a Canon Pro100. All the samples are mounted on mat card and are separated from the card with a sheet of acid free paper...
  14. peter D

    Papers to minimise fade with aftermarket dye inks.

    I checked with the New Zealand agent (importer) of Ilford photo papers and they confirmed that the Ilford Galerie Classic range has been discontinued and there doesn't apear to be an Ilford substitute. Apart from importing from the Northern hemisphere (freight rates are high for A3+ sized boxes)...
  15. peter D

    Papers to minimise fade with aftermarket dye inks.

    Now that's encouraging news, hopefully Mikling will have something to contribute to this subject regarding the performance of the Canon Pro100 with this paper over the next few weeks as well.
  16. peter D

    Papers to minimise fade with aftermarket dye inks.

    I received your email about one hour ago but plead ignorance about where to reply. Your offer of sample papers is very generous but I don't know how I would repay you except to mail you a cheque made out in New Zealand dollars for the postage etc. Please allow some time for me to find out more...
  17. peter D

    Papers to minimise fade with aftermarket dye inks.

    One day I'll proof read before posting. "....it can get a dent in the surface from just picking it up ........"
  18. peter D

    Papers to minimise fade with aftermarket dye inks.

    Thanks for pointing the "curling" issue out. I was also interested in the susceptibility of it to permanently dent as some papers like Canon Semi Gloss 260gsm (often supplied free with the Pro100 printer deals in the USA) which if you are not careful to lift the edges with both hands it can...
  19. peter D

    Papers to minimise fade with aftermarket dye inks.

    I've been out of contact with this since the 20th Oct. Wow, thank you Ink Stained Fingers for getting into the test work so promptly and in such depth. Mikling is right in my experience with dye ink fading as I've found the exposure to the atmosphere a dominant factor. Sealing the print on...
  20. peter D

    Papers to minimise fade with aftermarket dye inks.

    A bit more information has just been provided by Mr Wei Yu of Giant Image about the swellable papers. Apparently last month they determined that the gsm is 220 not 230 as on the website and they have not yet corrected the website. I'm happy with paper 260gsm -300gsm but have reservations about a...
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