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  1. peter D

    Papers to minimise fade with aftermarket dye inks.

    In case it wasn't noticed I provided sufficient resolution for the uploaded scans to be enlarged a lot so that the differences (particularly in the grey background curtain) between the middle one and the one on the right can be appreciated. I don't know how that translates on the website but it...
  2. peter D

    Papers to minimise fade with aftermarket dye inks.

    The paper is rolled so that the coated surface is innermost and then the roll is enclosed in a polythene sleeve which is crimped shut at each end by folding it back into the roll former tube and inserting the roll "spiders" which are plastic devices to hold the roll clear of the sides of the...
  3. peter D

    Papers to minimise fade with aftermarket dye inks.

    I do have a possible answer of sorts fresh in today from the manufacturer. Their swellable paper is susceptible to moist conditions (high humidity) whilst in storage prior to being printed on. Once the paper has taken up moisture it is essentially ruined because that is what causes the swellable...
  4. peter D

    Papers to minimise fade with aftermarket dye inks.

    Here is the first few results of the Boading Giant Image swellable paper verses Canon Semi Gloss microporous paper after over 4 months of exposure to light and the atmosphere. The printing in all cases was done using after market dye inks produced by Precision Colors. The test was started...
  5. peter D

    How does the choice of a glossy paper influence the fading of dye inks

    The OBA performance test you have done is somewhat at odds with what I'm observing using my 365nm LED torch to examine what is happening to the 3 or 4 paper fade test looking at two swellable papers verses microporous Canon Semi Gloss. So far well over 3 months after the start of the test the...
  6. peter D

    Papers to minimise fade with aftermarket dye inks.

    I've also looked at Wilhelm-Research's stuff and had the same difficulty trying to sort the wheat from the chaff. I remember a long while back trying to find a definitive report on the Canon ChromaLife 100+ inkset and not having much success.
  7. peter D

    Papers to minimise fade with aftermarket dye inks.

    "Swellable going dark" ? Seems odd to me as I have a few prints made on HP Swellable paper and stored in an album, but never noticed them going dark. Also I remembered a comment from a thread on the same subject posted on Photo.net back in late 2014 which doesn't support this assertion - "The...
  8. peter D

    Papers to minimise fade with aftermarket dye inks.

    Thanks for the link to Aardenberg Imaging. I see what you mean as regards the lack of interest from the members. Also Aardenberg don't seem to be seem to give much weight to gaseous influences on inks either as they seem to concentrate on about light exposure followed by dark storage as it...
  9. peter D

    Papers to minimise fade with aftermarket dye inks.

    It is puzzling to someone from a small country like myself just why the emphasis of the seller on moving huge volumes and their inability to contemplate what is needed to get sample volumes safely out to an international customer who might be running a large commercial wide format printer. It's...
  10. peter D

    Papers to minimise fade with aftermarket dye inks.

    Here's an update of the DHL freight costs for two 0.610 m X 30 m rolls of Baoding Giant Image swellable paper to New Zealand. The logistics company finally sent me an invoice for NZ$192 (about US$135) for the freight and insurance of a 9.2 kgm parcel (volumetric weight was lower) including...
  11. peter D

    Gloss optimizer and fading of dye inks

    Might be an outrageous idea but I was wondering if it was possible that Canon might have incorporated part of a GO (their Chroma Optimiser) formulation into their ChromaLife 100+ dye inkset mixed into the individual inks. Of course it wouldn't be applied over the top of the image ink laid down...
  12. peter D

    Papers to minimise fade with aftermarket dye inks.

    Good idea ! A 3D printer would be ideal to fabricate the end discs. For anyone contemplating this just ask and I'll pass on what I've learnt from this prototype. So far I can confirm that the inner faces of the discs should be high gloss and tapered at the outer edge and also separated from...
  13. peter D

    Papers to minimise fade with aftermarket dye inks.

    Here is the paper dispenser that I finished building today for the Giant Image 610mm wide rolls of swellable paper. In the foreground is my almost antique mat board cutter which I'm using as a squaring device and cutter. A cut piece is lying on the right. As the rolls are wound with the...
  14. peter D

    Papers to minimise fade with aftermarket dye inks.

    Thank you very much for sharing this article, it certainly goes into the issue in depth. I particularly liked the image of an old "Adams" print showing the OBA's still working after all these years, evidently with protection from UV they can be archived to an extent. There is definitely a...
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    Papers to minimise fade with aftermarket dye inks.

    As regards freight of Baoding Giant Image swellable papers so far I can only offer this explanation based on what has happened in my case. The papers have arrived courtesy of DHL Express door to door service. The papckage weight was 9.2 Kgm for 2 rolls 0.610 metres wide and 30 metres long, not...
  16. peter D

    Papers to minimise fade with aftermarket dye inks.

    "You have to use pigment inks for fade durability." My argument on this issue is simple, Canon recoqnised that dye printers have their place and introduced a special inkset for them that minimized fade however that inset for the Pro100 is expensive and for those of us that are refilling there...
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    Papers to minimise fade with aftermarket dye inks.

    Finally then the image printed on HP Premium Plus Gloss High Gloss swellable paper is compared with a fresh print on the same paper with the same inks and settings made earlier today. HP PREMIUM PLUS HIGH GLOSS SWELLABLE - LIGHT + OZONE ...............................HP PREMIUM PLUS HIGH...
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    Papers to minimise fade with aftermarket dye inks.

    Another four images all made on Baoding Giant Image Gloss Swellable paper printed with a Canon Pro100 using Precision Colors dye inks. Again the term "no ozone" refers to measures taken to limit exposure to the atmosphere in my living room and "light" refers to light falling on the prints...
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    Papers to minimise fade with aftermarket dye inks.

    Here is a preview of the Giant Image swellable paper fade test derby so far. Today I've scanned two of the 5X7 prints at low resolution (75dpi) on Canon D1250U2 flatbed scanner and posted them here to see how viewable they are on this website before continuing with more scans of the other prints...
  20. peter D

    Papers to minimise fade with aftermarket dye inks.

    Freight: Could be freight complications but I'm interpreting the problem as one of scale. They deal in quite large volume for wide format commercial machines and the two 30 metre rolls they are sending to me are just samples for them and they expect the importer just to write off the freight as...
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